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1 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98679 | ||
The Mormon view of plurality od Gods is not misquued... since the Lord God ackowledged the pluralty of "Gods" and the devil as well. And if God is the author of Truth and the devil the author of Lies, where is the medium to say the devil does not say there are more than one in Godhood..? If you agree saying he is a liar on that, than you are saying the Lord God is a liar on that... the Bible says it And the Mormons are not the only one's be not believe the "Tirnity"... the Unitarians believed years before and seperated in Europe before coming to America... A founder of the Unitarians said that the "Trinity" has no Biblical support and is a creed of men and incorrect... This is the one doctrine they have kept over their transition into one of the most liberal Churches today... To put into understanding of the Mormon beliefs of God being created, I cannot fully explain... BUT... I can however explain the understanding of the same, yesterday, today, and forever... In simple terms, we as humans are 4th dimension beings... we follow the simple mathematical ploting of the X, Y, and Z quordince to create 3 dimension... the 4th however is Time, something that we cannot manipulate... God however is not bound to our 4 dimensions and controls all aspect of it, which would make God, extra dimensional and if God is extra dimensional our concept of Eternity is limited to the dimensional though God has limited us to here in this life... but if God has extra dimensional thought, He must, "Dumb down" so to say, His explination to us so that we might be able to understand it... It'd be like trying to shove a Football into a Golf Hole, a tiny bit will poke in, but it wont fit, so you must use the proper ball that will... the Golf Ball... So there in... short... are explinations of why someone is inclined to believe otherwise... you must educate yourself and study the Bible... and if they contradict the Bible, they must be set aside... I have yet to find the Mormons in contradiction to the BIBLE, the creeds of men, absolutely! But there are other Churches who teach from the Bible(and against creeds!) and for their interpretations are not wrong, I am in course of finding and studying them as well... Joe |
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2 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 98740 | ||
Joe Ask them where God came from, was he not a man living a good life on another planet and therefore allowed to become 'god' of Earth? Make them answer yes or no and if they say no ask them to tell you where he came from Ask them how Mary became pregnant? If they say anything other than Elohim became man had sexual relations with Mary and she became pregnant then ask them to explain. Ask them did Jesus have a beginning? If they say anything other than Elohim and his heavenly wife had sex and Jesus was born of that union then ask them to explain. What you getting is thousand word answers that snow the question and mixes up the issues. Ask short distinct questions expecting short distinct answers. Remember the old adage "if you can't convince them with truth baffle them with your many words." EdB |
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3 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98820 | ||
I'm not trying to convince any one, I am learning for myself... And to humanly contimplate the understanding of an Eternal Beginning is impossible, which they recognize... so I don't see to much of a problem... And why are we on the Mormons again? Joe |
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4 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | EdB | 98841 | ||
Joe I think we are on Mormons because you said they worship Jesus. The point I'm trying to make clear here is while they worship someone they have named Jesus, the Jesus of Mormonism is not the Jesus of Scripture. The god of Mormonism is not the God of Scripture. People and things are known by their definitions, when we change the definitions we don’t change the person nor the object, but rather we are then defining someone or something different. For instance if we have a man name J. W. Smith the things we know about him (what defines him to us) make him different than another J. W. Smith that we might meet later. If our J. W. Smith has red hair and 6 feet tall then he is different that J. W. Smith with blond hair and is 5 ft. 9 inches tall. This is very important! Jesus when he was on earth said many will come claiming to be me but I am the only truth and only way. Mormons have defined a god, a Jesus and a religion, it sounds very logical and right because it was formulated by man to be appealing to man. In Mormonism hard to understand things of scriptural Christianity like the Trinity which simply can not be completely understood by man and seems illogical, have been carefully crafted to have understandable and believable explanations. The purpose of man has been explained in ways that appeal to man more so than true Christianity. Salvation once again is explained in ways that make it more appealing to man's logic and understanding. However redefining something to make it more believable or more understandable does not make it correct, what is correct is the definitions given in the Bible and this is exactly where Mormonism departs from the truth. EdB |
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