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1 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 98726 | ||
You wrote: "Now, my point, the Mormon definition of Salvation is equal to what the rest of the world calls Sanctification... and every church I've studied believes Sanctification can only be obtained through their Church... so where are the Mormons so wrong in their understanding of salvation?" Because biblically, sanctification (our being made righteous in practice) is subsequent to justification (being pardoned and declared righteous because of Christ's obedience and sacrifice for His people). I am going to heaven because of what Jesus did for me, not because of what I did for myself. My best actions are imperfectly good ones, and our infinitely holy God accepts nothing less than perfect obedience; that is, obedience like Christ provided on my behalf. Therefore, the LDS version of salvation is like sanctification, but according to the Bible our progressive sanctification is the EVIDENCE and FRUIT of being saved, not the BASIS of me being saved. --Joe! |
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2 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98823 | ||
Joe you make a good point. What I was trying to get to is this, the LDS understanding of Salvation is much greater than the general Christian understanding... And to get into what the general Christian world view of Heaven by LDS terms, is to have have faith. So when talking about an equally worth of a destination the LDS and the general Christians all agree... Faith alone will get you there... But the LDS Church believes in Exaltation, which is what they generically call Salvation... See my point on understnading each others terminology? We may use the same words as another, but the meanings can be very diferent... It's like American English and British English, for the most part we can understand each other, but I'd be lost in some areas unless I learned their terminology... Joe |
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3 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 98832 | ||
"So when talking about an equally worth of a destination the LDS and the general Christians all agree... Faith alone will get you there..." Actually, Mormons teach that almost everyone will be going to one of the three heavens. Other than apostate Mormons and "anti's" like me, hell (the "outer darkness") is pretty empty. I am aware of the way cults like the LDS manipulate Christian terminology to mean something different. Most aberrant groups have their own jargon, "code" vocabulary, or altered definitions of theological terms that lexically isolates their members from having meaningful theological conversations outside the group. Defining terms is indeed important. The LDS has defined them incorrectly. --Joe! |
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4 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 99021 | ||
"Other than apostate Mormons and "anti's" like me, hell (the "outer darkness") is pretty empty." I believe you were miss informed... Not necisarrily "Apostate" Mormons... if someone never had a true testimony, they would not be held in the same reguard, and as far as "Anti's"... unless you're so Anti as to go out and murder on behalf of this, that is not the case... only those who would classify as the "Son of Perdition" would go to outer darkness... Anti Mormons are not the osn of perdition... Joe |
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5 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 99027 | ||
In any case, Mormon hell is pretty empty. Not the way Jesus described it at all. --Joe! |
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