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1 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98208 | ||
I'm sorry you are wrong, Christ said that he will be with him in Paradise, Heaven was never specific... And what about those who will die before hand? You're undermining John 3:5... Baptism is mandatory... True, the Father looks into our hearts, but faith and grace alone are not sufficiant... James 2:17 James points out the importants of keeping the commandments... I'm familiar with the works alone will not save you argument... but that is reguard to the Law of Moses, which was preached to be sufficant to reach Heaven by the Jews... |
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2 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Makarios | 98214 | ||
"Is baptism necessary for salvation?" "No. Let's examine what the Scriptures teach on this issue: First, it is quite clear from such passages as Acts 15 and Romans 4 that no external act is necessary for salvation. Salvation is by divine grace through faith alone (Romans 3:22, 24, 25, 26, 28, 30; 4:5; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Philippians 3:9, etc.). If baptism were necessary for salvation, we would expect to find it stressed whenever the gospel is presented in Scripture. That is not the case, however. Peter mentioned baptism in his sermon on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:38). However, in his sermon from Solomon's portico in the Temple (Acts 3:12-26), Peter makes no reference to baptism, but links forgiveness of sin to repentance (3:19). If baptism is necessary for the forgiveness of sin, why didn't Peter say so in Acts 3? Paul never made baptism any part of his gospel presentations. In 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Paul gives a concise summary of the gospel message he preached. There is no mention of baptism. In 1 Corinthians 1:17, Paul states that "Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel," thus clearly differentiating the gospel from baptism. That is difficult to understand if baptism is necessary for salvation. If baptism were part of the gospel itself, necessary for salvation, what good would it have done Paul to preach the gospel, but not baptize? No one would have been saved. Paul clearly understood baptism to be separate from the gospel, and hence in no way efficacious for salvation. Perhaps the most convincing refutation of the view that baptism is necessary for salvation are those who were saved apart from baptism. We have no record of the apostles' being baptized, yet Jesus pronounced them clean of their sins (John 15:3--note that the Word of God, not baptism, is what cleansed them). The penitent woman (Luke 7:37-50), the paralytic man (Matthew 9:2), and the publican (Luke 18:13-14) also experienced forgiveness of sins apart from baptism. The Bible also gives us an example of people who were saved before being baptized. In Acts 10:44-48, Cornelius and those with him were converted through Peter's message. That they were saved before being baptized is evident from their reception of the Holy Spirit (v. 44) and the gifts of the Spirit (v. 46) before their baptism. Indeed, it is the fact that they had received the Holy Spirit (and hence were saved) that led Peter to baptize them (cf. v. 47). In Acts 2:38, Peter appears to link forgiveness of sins to baptism. But there are at least two plausible interpretations of this verse that do not connect forgiveness of sin with baptism. It is possible to translate the Greek preposition eis "because of," or "on the basis of," instead of "for." It is used in that sense in Matthew 3:11; 12:41; and Luke 11:32. It is also possible to take the clause "and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" as parenthetical. Support for that interpretation comes from that fact that "repent" and "your" are plural, while "be baptized" is singular, thus setting it off from the rest of the sentence. If that interpretation is correct, the verse would read "Repent (and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ) for the forgiveness of your sins." Forgiveness is thus connected with repentance, not baptism, in keeping with the consistent teaching of the New Testament (cf. Luke 24:47; John 3:18; Acts 5:31; 10:43; 13:38; 26:18; Ephesians 5:26). Water baptism does not seem to be what Peter has in view in 1 Peter 3:21. The English word "baptism" is simply a transliteration of the Greek word baptizo, which means "to immerse." Baptizo does not always refer to water baptism in the New Testament (cf. Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; 7:4; 10:38-39; Luke 3:16; 11:38; 12:50; John 1:33; Acts 1:5; 11:16; 1 Corinthians 10:2; 12:13). Peter is not talking about immersion in water, as the phrase "not the removal of dirt from the flesh" indicates. He is referring to immersion in Christ's death and resurrection through "an appeal to God for a good conscience," or repentance. In Acts 22:16, Paul recounts the words of Ananias to him following his experience on the Damascus road: "Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name." It is best to connect the phrase "wash away your sins" with "calling on His name." If we connect it with "be baptized," the Greek participle epikalesamenos ("calling") would have no antecedent. Paul's sins were washed away not by baptism, but by calling on His name. Baptism is certainly important, and required of every believer. However, the New Testament does not teach that baptism is necessary for salvation." [Taken from http://www.gty.org/IssuesandAnswers/archive/baptism.htm] - Makarios |
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3 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 98312 | ||
Hello Blessed, I agree with your post 100 percent but the interesting thing is that no matter how hard you try there are those who just cant see it and I have concluded that after awhile it’s just a waste of time, and here is why. 1 Cor. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. This verse ties in with what Christ said to Peter in Matthew 16 Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. All Scripture, in order to come to the proper conclusion, must have God as the teacher. This excellent teaching brings one to a total trust in God’s Son. John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Anything less then a 100 percent total trust in Jesus Christ for salvation isn’t effective salvation, and as a result some will argue with you till they a blue in the face, but the fact is they just don’t know yet until the Lord reveals it to them! They don’t truly know the Lord unless their faith is in Jesus entirely; not even the slightest bit of faith can be in anything else, including baptism, communion or any ritual of any sort, and still have it be considered true undivided faith in Christ, as God’s Word requires. The word for faith in the Greek, PISTIS, implies this when it speaks of salvation by believing in God’s Son, Jesus the Christ! As a result Jesus said, Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Many speak of faith and works, the teaching of the father is very exact when it comes to what would be considered work on our part. Here is the only work that we can claim as counting toward salvation. John 6:27-29 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Is that great or what, Jesus did it all and Jesus gets all the credit! Faith alone in Christ ALONE. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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4 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Makarios | 98318 | ||
Greetings my friend! Yes! Jesus gets all the credit! Perhaps I should post an excellent little acrostic that I received once through the mail.. :-) "HERE STAND I "[G]od has a gift and it's free to all, "[R]iches to those who on Him will call. "[A] home in His presence, "[C]hrist is the way, "[E]ternal in nature, forever I'll stay. "Through "[F]aith in Christ, the atonement made, "[A]ccepting God's gift, for the price was full paid. "[I] rest in His work, the solution for sin, "[T]rust in God's Word, that Jesus died for all men: "[H]ope for the future, as He's coming again. "And so here stand I" (Ephesians 2:8,9; Romans 6:23; John 14:2-6) "By Charles D. Bickett, Jr." - Makarios :-) |
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5 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 98320 | ||
Now that's a clasic, and it says exactly the way I understand it! CDBJ Here is another one by the same guy. THE TWO CHRISTIAN FAITHS ? There are two Christian faiths that reside upon this Earth. One emphasizes goodness the other a second birth. The first lay claims to being the best that they can be. But when it comes to heaven, they have to wait and see! The second ensures one heaven by believing what God said, By trusting in the Son he sent, who rose up from the dead. One expresses feelings for the brotherhood of man. The other promises deliverance, by faith in God’s great plan. The first takes bits and pieces from the Bible just for show; But when it comes to eternal life, the fact is, they don’t know! The other uses all God’s word to support a firm position. It brings them to a relationship through belief and true contrition. The first has a desire of where they want to be, But they’re enslaved by the curse of sin, and not as yet set free. The others bask in the love of God, provided by his Son, Because they trust in the promise, that He died for everyone. The first rely on deeds they’ve done, to gain God’s favored space. The second trust in the work Christ did, because it’s all by grace. He took our place for judgment and died for all our sins, And those that accept the grace of this, the Lord has welcomed in. So claim a promise from God’s word, he’s beholding to the task. Heaven and Earth may pass away, but God’s word will always last! By Charles D. Bickett, Jr. |
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6 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Makarios | 98322 | ||
CDBJ, Most Excellent! :-) I'd say that Charles Bickett has a gift for spreading Biblical Truth through reason, rhyme and poem. We are all truly blessed with your wit! Makarios |
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7 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 98323 | ||
Hi Makarios, You are most kind! Whenever I speak of wit to my wife she says that I am half right! We have a great time teasing each other. It is so wonderful having a mate that loves the Lord and you know that they will spend eternity with you with Jesus. I almost lost her though several years ago and there is an actual prayer that I put on paper one night at about four in the morning, as I was pouring my heart out to the Lord. A SHORT PRAYER Oh Father I fear, and that for life, Not for me dare say, but for that of my wife. She’s a gem to me, now polished by years, The love of my life, a kindred in tears. I plead for her safety, her health, her well being, But the wear of cruel time is what I’ve been seeing. She loves you, Lord, and you are the best, I can’t compete when it comes to that test. Please let her stay here a while, and dispel my great fears, I love her move now in these golden of years. A helpmate for sure is what she has been, Always there by my side through thick and through thin. I know I’ve no right in this prayer I proclaim, But I ask this dear Father in Jesus’ sweet name. Amen |
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