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1 | BAPTISIM OF THE DEAD | NT general Archive 1 | PYLE | 704 | ||
DOES THE REFRENCE TO BAPTISIM OF THE DEAD IN ICOR15:29 MEAN THAT WE CAN BE BAPTIZED ON BEHALF OF OUR DEAD LOVED ONES. | ||||||
2 | BAPTISIM OF THE DEAD | NT general Archive 1 | nivlac5 | 90292 | ||
No, it does not. This was a rare and erroneous practice by some and Paul condems it."It is appointed to man once to die and then face the judgement" Heb 9:27. First of all baptism saves no one. It is by faith alone, in Christ alone, by Grace alone. Baptism is an act of obedience to salvation, but does not save. If one leaves this earth in denial of the Gospel and denial of the God and Savior, he/she is condemned for ever. No chance outside of this time space continuim will provide salvation. | ||||||
3 | What about those who have never heard of | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98132 | ||
I know this topic is old, but... What about those who have never heard of Christ? Where is Gods mercy in eternal damnation of a people for the traditions of their fathers? John 3:5, "... Except a man be born of the water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." Baptism is manditory... what about those people who were in natural practice, better Christians than you or I, if given the chance to hear of Christ and be baptised, if they would have, why would they be damned for not performing the manditory ordinance when God, in His infinant wisdom prepares a way for all... "If the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?" It's a question answered with another question... "If there is no ressurection?" "Then why is there baptism for the dead?" It's pretty self explanitory... One thing to remember, God is not the authory of confusion, Christs teachings are more meaningful if using commonsense in reading |
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4 | What about those who have never heard of | NT general Archive 1 | Friend of God | 98151 | ||
The end will not come untill the bible is preached around the whole world. So everywone will have the oppertunity to know the truth and be given a chance to except christ. In addition if somewone has not ben baptized yet don't mean that they won't be excpted into heven. Rember, the man next to Jesus on the cross was a siner and had never had the oppertunity to be babtized, However Jesus sead you will be with me in heaven today. God knows the heart and that is what he looks at. | ||||||
5 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98208 | ||
I'm sorry you are wrong, Christ said that he will be with him in Paradise, Heaven was never specific... And what about those who will die before hand? You're undermining John 3:5... Baptism is mandatory... True, the Father looks into our hearts, but faith and grace alone are not sufficiant... James 2:17 James points out the importants of keeping the commandments... I'm familiar with the works alone will not save you argument... but that is reguard to the Law of Moses, which was preached to be sufficant to reach Heaven by the Jews... |
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6 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 98209 | ||
Dachande, Consider this: "The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation.[Cf. Jn 3:5 .] He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them.[Cf. Mt 28:19-20) Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.[Cf. Mk 16:16 .] The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." GOD HAS BOUND SALVATION TO THE SACRAMENT OF BAPTISM, BUT HE HIMSELF IS NOT BOUND BY HIS SACRAMENTS." "The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ. This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament. " "For catechumens who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament. " ""Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery."Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity." "As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: "Let the children come to me, do not hinder them,"[Mk 10 14 ; cf. 1 Tim 2:4 .] allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism." The Catechism # 1257 through 1261 Emmaus |
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7 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Makarios | 98213 | ||
"Is baptism necessary for salvation?" "No. Let's examine what the Scriptures teach on this issue: First, it is quite clear from such passages as Acts 15 and Romans 4 that no external act is necessary for salvation. Salvation is by divine grace through faith alone (Romans 3:22, 24, 25, 26, 28, 30; 4:5; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Philippians 3:9, etc.). If baptism were necessary for salvation, we would expect to find it stressed whenever the gospel is presented in Scripture. That is not the case, however. Peter mentioned baptism in his sermon on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:38). However, in his sermon from Solomon's portico in the Temple (Acts 3:12-26), Peter makes no reference to baptism, but links forgiveness of sin to repentance (3:19). If baptism is necessary for the forgiveness of sin, why didn't Peter say so in Acts 3? Paul never made baptism any part of his gospel presentations. In 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Paul gives a concise summary of the gospel message he preached. There is no mention of baptism. In 1 Corinthians 1:17, Paul states that "Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel," thus clearly differentiating the gospel from baptism. That is difficult to understand if baptism is necessary for salvation. If baptism were part of the gospel itself, necessary for salvation, what good would it have done Paul to preach the gospel, but not baptize? No one would have been saved. Paul clearly understood baptism to be separate from the gospel, and hence in no way efficacious for salvation. Perhaps the most convincing refutation of the view that baptism is necessary for salvation are those who were saved apart from baptism. We have no record of the apostles' being baptized, yet Jesus pronounced them clean of their sins (John 15:3--note that the Word of God, not baptism, is what cleansed them). The penitent woman (Luke 7:37-50), the paralytic man (Matthew 9:2), and the publican (Luke 18:13-14) also experienced forgiveness of sins apart from baptism. The Bible also gives us an example of people who were saved before being baptized. In Acts 10:44-48, Cornelius and those with him were converted through Peter's message. That they were saved before being baptized is evident from their reception of the Holy Spirit (v. 44) and the gifts of the Spirit (v. 46) before their baptism. Indeed, it is the fact that they had received the Holy Spirit (and hence were saved) that led Peter to baptize them (cf. v. 47). In Acts 2:38, Peter appears to link forgiveness of sins to baptism. But there are at least two plausible interpretations of this verse that do not connect forgiveness of sin with baptism. It is possible to translate the Greek preposition eis "because of," or "on the basis of," instead of "for." It is used in that sense in Matthew 3:11; 12:41; and Luke 11:32. It is also possible to take the clause "and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" as parenthetical. Support for that interpretation comes from that fact that "repent" and "your" are plural, while "be baptized" is singular, thus setting it off from the rest of the sentence. If that interpretation is correct, the verse would read "Repent (and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ) for the forgiveness of your sins." Forgiveness is thus connected with repentance, not baptism, in keeping with the consistent teaching of the New Testament (cf. Luke 24:47; John 3:18; Acts 5:31; 10:43; 13:38; 26:18; Ephesians 5:26). Water baptism does not seem to be what Peter has in view in 1 Peter 3:21. The English word "baptism" is simply a transliteration of the Greek word baptizo, which means "to immerse." Baptizo does not always refer to water baptism in the New Testament (cf. Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; 7:4; 10:38-39; Luke 3:16; 11:38; 12:50; John 1:33; Acts 1:5; 11:16; 1 Corinthians 10:2; 12:13). Peter is not talking about immersion in water, as the phrase "not the removal of dirt from the flesh" indicates. He is referring to immersion in Christ's death and resurrection through "an appeal to God for a good conscience," or repentance. In Acts 22:16, Paul recounts the words of Ananias to him following his experience on the Damascus road: "Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name." It is best to connect the phrase "wash away your sins" with "calling on His name." If we connect it with "be baptized," the Greek participle epikalesamenos ("calling") would have no antecedent. Paul's sins were washed away not by baptism, but by calling on His name. Baptism is certainly important, and required of every believer. However, the New Testament does not teach that baptism is necessary for salvation." [Taken from http://www.gty.org/IssuesandAnswers/archive/baptism.htm] - Makarios |
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8 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Hank | 98225 | ||
Makarios - A good and appropriate --and scripturally sound -- selection from the pen of John MacArthur on baptism! ..... Holding imperatively onto the doctrine of the regenerative power of water to effect man's salvation almost invariably goes hand in hand with the doctrine of works salvation, the idea in both instances being that man must do something to earn his salvation. I've wondered why it is apparently so difficult for some to understand the plain language Paul used in explanation to the Ephesians (2:8,9) of God's plan of salvation. He told them, "By grace you have been saved through faith." He explained to them in simple words that it was not of their own doing -- "not of yourselves" -- but it is "the gift of God." It is not compensation for being good little Ephesians and helping old ladies across the street! "It is the GIFT of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." ..... What could possibly be plainer than that? Yet in spite of this clear teaching on what salvation is ("the gift of God") and what is isn't ("not of works"), whole theological systems are based on salvation by water and works. Perhaps a trip to the bookshelf to take a hard look at a good theological dictionary might help to get this doctrine of grace fixed firmly in mind, because some of the problems may lie in confusing justification with sanctification. Justification has nothing whatever to do with good works. It is the experience of a guilty sinner receiving the position of righteousness before God. Scripture makes it clear that this is possible only on the basis of God's grace and of the individual's personal, saving faith in the Person and the redemptive work of Christ on the cross. .... Sanctification is positional, progressive, and ultimate. Positional -- the work of the Holy Spirit in setting a man apart for Jesus Christ at his conversion (1 Peter 1:2) ...... Progressive -- the work of the Holy Spirit which continues throughout the life of the believer and which results in increasing personal holiness: "For we are His worksmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works...(see Ephesians 2:10) ...... Ultimate -- The culmination of the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit resulting in glorification in the presence of God. ...... So good works clearly are not part of justificaton but of sanctification. ..... Christ commanded that those who become His followers should be baptized (Matt. 28:19), making baptism essential to obedience. This witness to salvation is testimony to the believer's obedience to the command of Christ. This immersion in the name of the Triunity (Matt. 28:19) neither saves nor contributes to salvation in any way. --Hank | ||||||
9 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98227 | ||
Me again... I'm not going to quote scripture... but I'll quote Heinlad :) For those who have either seen or read StarShip Troopers... abslutly awsome book... "Something given has no value." Hence I go back to James2:17, faith without works is dead :) |
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10 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Hank | 98228 | ||
This is totally absurd! You quote some obscure "Star-Ship Troopers" book, "Something given has no value." in a vain attempt to show, I presume, that God's gift of salvation has no value! This is an abhorrent thing to read on a Bible study forum. Sir or madam, this is flagrant abuse of your privilege to use this forum! --Hank | ||||||
11 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98229 | ||
Excuse me? Abuse? Truth is not obscure... You are over reacting sir, I am as well a man... but if you can't soft heartingly listen to others than you should not flame a forum... I in no way abused this forum, and would appriciate if you wished to flame me to ask if you could contact me via email, I'd be more than happy to take critisism one on one, but in a public forum it is inappropriate |
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12 | And what about those who will die before | NT general Archive 1 | Radioman2 | 98265 | ||
You write: "Truth is not obscure." I ask: "What is truth?" --Radioman2 |
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