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1 | Speaking in tongues...not saved? | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 36324 | ||
Hello Nedra, No! And ask this person to show you where speaking in tongues saves us. The bible says obediance to the Gospel and the culminating act of baptism saves us 1 Peter 3:21 There is also an antitype which now saves us--baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, I am sure she can not show such a scripture. Also read 1 Cor chapter 13 and 14. Chapter 13 says that tongues will cease along with other miracles when that which is perfect comes. That which is perfect is the bible. You see they needed signs and prophsey back then because they did not have the completed revelation of the bible. This is the only way God comunicates with us today is thru the bible. Not in a room with a bunch of people spitting out gibrish that nobody can understand. Read ch 14 also, this says that if the words which are spoken cannot be easily understood it profits no one and their just talking in the air. And verse 27-33 says that only 2 not more than 3 should speak in tongues and then only one at a time and even then there must be an interpreter or they are to keep silent. And theres not a single one of these people that claim they have the gift of tongues keeps this verse. They all start babeling at the same time and none of them knows what the other is saying, thus no one becomes edified like the bible says is the purpose and so they might as well just throw the bible out the door! Nobody today can speak in a different tongue. If they as they say have been touched by the Holy Spirit then why can they not speak in another language, one that we know about and not just baby talk. Because that is what speaking in a different tongue is. Read Acts 2, the Day of Pentacost. All the apostles were there and verse 5 says: "And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven" and 6-8 says: "6And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. 7Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, "Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? 8And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born?" So, I think that if you read these scriptures for yourself that you will be able better to understand that what she claims is just not true. Look at it this way, if she can do what she says then the bible is a fake. If I can be of more assistance please write. Raven |
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2 | Speaking in tongues...not saved? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 36373 | ||
Dear Raven, Perhaps it was just a slip, but in your reply to Nedra you wrote: "The bible says obediance to the Gospel and the culminating act of baptism saves us. Did you really mean to say that in addition to faith in Christ, we must be baptized before our salvation is recieved? Your Brother John |
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3 | Speaking in tongues...not saved? | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 36435 | ||
Yes I give you a scripture that says that and I believe it because it is in the bible. I am sorry that you do not. Perhaps you should also read Mark 16:16 and John 3:1-5. Also remember John 14:15. And before you write back and give me Ephesians 2:8 to read, I have already read it and I believe that also. It is by the grace of God that He sent His only Son to die for our sins. But faith alone does not save us,its conditional. If I told you that you have won a million dollars but you got to come to me to recieve it, you dont have it until you do and that is fact. You can't see it, you can't spend it and you can't benefit from it unless you do as I say. Have you not read James 2:19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble! and James 2 Faith Without Works Is Dead (1) 14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. Perhaps this is whay Jesus said: Mark 7:7 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' You can't dispute what the bible says no matter how hard you try. Picking and choosing certain scriptures to make a point. 2 Timothy 3 15and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. It says "ALL" scripture. But some want to take out and add want they want and you cant do that and expect to be saved! Revelation 22 A Warning 18 For[1] I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add[2] to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away[3] his part from the Book[4] of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Each of us has to put aside our feelings and submit to the Father and do his will. Matt 7:21 And the way to the Father is thru Jesus Christ John 14:6 The bible warns us but we have to read it and accept it. Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death Proverbs 28:26 He who trusts in his own heart is a fool, But whoever walks wisely will be delivered. Your friend in Christ, Raven |
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4 | Speaking in tongues...not saved? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 36447 | ||
Dear Raven, Thank you for responding to my post. I agree with you, when you said: "You can't dispute what the bible says no matter how hard you try. Picking and choosing certain scriptures to make a point." False teachers do this all the time. They take scripture out of context and twist it. This wicked practice will lead to their destruction! I would suggest that we read Paul's letter to the Galatians to help us understand the nature of our salvation. Then perhaps we can dicuss what we have learned from this particular book. God Bless Raven, John |
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5 | Speaking in tongues...not saved? | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 36456 | ||
Dear John, I hope you won't mind that I read your profile. I would like to know where the bible says that babys are lost or defiled from birth? And not this one: Romans 3 22even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all[1] who believe. For there is no difference; 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, for even it says those who believe. And we know that babys can not believe for they do not understand. The whole scheme of redemption is based on a person coming to the undserstanding that they are a sinner and therefore submiting to God thru Repentance, Confession and Baptism. And if for example we use this to prove yours and Calvin's point then this verse would seem to say that Heaven is full of sinners. Mark 10 Jesus Blesses Little Children (1) 13 Then they brought little children to Him, that He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked those who brought them. 14But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. 15Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it." You see children are not held accountable for anything untill they are accountable for their actions and understand. Which is another question, where does the bible mention sprinkling babies when their born? The word baptize means to emerse. Nowhere is there a scripture that confirms this act on babies. Your friend in Christ, Raven |
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6 | Speaking in tongues...not saved? | Bible general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 36472 | ||
Dear Raven, We were talking about the necessity of baptism. Is it necessary for salvation or not? You say it is and I say it is not. I suggested reading Galatians as a way of finding out what Paul says about faith and works. Your reply to me was about the salvation of babys. I never mentioned babys or offered an opinion about where they go if the die. I would be happy to discuss the question that Nedra asked, so can't we stick to that? John |
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7 | Speaking in tongues...not saved? | Bible general Archive 1 | RAVEN | 36485 | ||
I am sorry to offend you with my question. But it seemed like the original question Nedra had was answered. You wrote: (I don't see any mention of tongues, or baptism for that matter, in these or any other verse in scripture.) and I wrote: (Also read 1 Cor chapter 13 and 14. Chapter 13 says that tongues will cease along with other miracles when that which is perfect comes.) But you were the one my friend that ask: (Did you really mean to say that in addition to faith in Christ, we must be baptized before our salvation is recieved?) And in replying to that I looked at your profile because I thought it would help me to better understand where your question to me was coming from. If you didn't want anybody to read it you shouldn't have put it on there. I will be glad to look at Galatians with you. Give me a little time to write you back. Your friend in Christ, Raven |
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8 | Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? | Bible general Archive 1 | Cyclist | 36496 | ||
RAVEN and John Reformed, Good Day to you! I noticed that the question regarding speaking in tongues got into the subject of it being nessesary to be baptized in order to be saved. I have a question on this subject Reference Luke 23:32 through 43. (32)...Two others also, who were criminals,... (42)...Jesus, Remember me when You come in Your Kingdom. (43)..., Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in paradise. My question is, and not challenging you but would just like to know, was the criminal excused from baptism? If the criminal was from that region he would have heard of John the baptist wouldn't he? That may be an unfair question because we do not know where the criminal was from. I would welcome comments from anyone on the forum. Much Love in Christ, Cyclist |
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9 | Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 36516 | ||
Cyclist, the criminal on the cross was no more or less excused from salvific water baptism than any one has ever been, because salvific water baptism does not exist. What does exist is regeneration by the Holy Spirit that comes by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. --Hank | ||||||
10 | Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? | Bible general Archive 1 | Cyclist | 36520 | ||
Thank You Hank! Cyclist |
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