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1 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144404 | ||
Hello CDBJ; I believe that our body is simply the "house" that our soul, mind, and spirit live in. The soul that we were born with has and does sin and is condemned as you quoted in Ezekiel 18:20. I believe that in 1Cor 5:5, Paul is saying that "the destruction of the flesh" is to destroy the power of the old nature over this believer, who ,by the way, returned later asking for forgiveness.(in 2 Cor) I believe that we believers (born again ones) have a new (soul if you wish) that is created by God in righteousness and true holiness (Eph 4:24) and that the "old man",ie, the old soul if you wish is still with us conflicting with the desires of the "new man" and the Holy Spirit. We still have a will to choose which we will obey and are therefore still responsible to God for the choice we make. If we "yield" to sin then we do not loose our salvation(we are sons of God) but we do suffer loss of fellowship with Him. If we hit ourselves on the thumb with a hammer, well ,we are responsible for our actions. I hope this helps explain my position which of course is not infallible. Your brother in Christ; M. J. Head |
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2 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | CDBJ | 144408 | ||
Greetings M.J. Head, I would concur with you with the exception of the old and new soul. I believe that what we receive at the point of salvation is a living operative spirit which Adam managed to kill when he disobeyed God and passed the trait on to all those of his making. 1 Cor. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. We, with the exception of Christ, were all in Adam genetically speaking and thus the male passes down the old sin nature at conception to offspring which is born physically alive, body and soul, but the spirit is dead. Hence the need for rebirth as Jesus stated, John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. The word “see” comes to us from the word EIDO; by implication to know, be aware, behold. The spirit being that part of man that communicates with God. The part of us that houses the old sin nature, as I see it, is the flesh, or what Paul refers to in the Koine Greek as the SARX. I.E. death of flesh, good by old sin nature. The soul is eternal, the real you, as it were and will live on forever. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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3 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | M. J. Head | 144719 | ||
Hello CDBJ, Sorry for the long delay, I had other priorities. It is a difficult subject to get ones arms around. I referred the 2 souls for want of a better explanation for the source of sin in a believers life. To me it is very important to understand what that source is. I cannot accept the interpretation of many commentators that 1 John 1:9 and 5:18 are referring to a continueing sin in that which is born of God. The "seed" is from God. If it is even capable of sin then we have a huge problem on our hands! We would be saying that new creature, that new man, being born of God, is cabable of sin, and thus christ died in vain!! Because He was manifested to take away our sins, in Him is no sin, etc, we make God the source of sin in the believers life, if indeed that sin has its source in the new nature that is born of God. What do you think? Thank you, M. J. Head |
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4 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | CDBJ | 144759 | ||
Greetings MJH, It was explained to me, by someone a lot smarter then I am that Adam passed on the old sin nature through procreation of the body. The 23 chromosomes of the males contribution, at conception, infects the cells structure, thus passing on the OSN, or old sin nature. We all contain 46 chromosomes but only 23 are used from each of the parents. The female, through meioses and polar body throws of her 23 contaminated chromosomes leaving 23 without the OSN. The male inseminates the female with his 23 chromosomes containing the OSN and the fetus starts with an OSN. Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. This would also prove out how Jesus was born “without” an old sin nature because Mary was a virgin and conception was by the Holy Spirit. Man procreates and biological life starts in the womb; at the instance of physical life, when the child becomes independent of the mother, the instant it breaths on its own, God imparts soul life or, neshamah, in the Hebrew, and the fetus becomes a baby with a living soul. I know I’ll catch a lot of flack for this and all I can tell you is that‘s what I was taught years ago by my pastor R. B. Thieme Jr. He and a Dr. Jamieson came up with it and it all works out with Scripture and I believe it. If anyone asks me to prove it, I can’t, just take it or leave it. There is a web site, http://www.berachah.org/ Have a great day, CDBJ |
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5 | One born of God cannot sin? | 1 John 3:9 | srbaegon | 144768 | ||
Hello CDBJ, I've heard of the theory of imparting the soul at birth. I don't think it makes any sense in light of Scripture. But that's another thread. :-) Steve |
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