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1 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | M.Royal | 188163 | ||
Hi Mark, I know that there are many scriptures relating to the day of the Lord, or his coming, but can anyone provide any that relate to the rapture? Thanks M.Royal |
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2 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | skccab | 188179 | ||
Hi MRoyal, I keep going to many of the Scriptures that people use for the 2nd coming - many of those don't actually speak of Christ coming back to the earth, they speak of Him coming in the clouds. And then I recall many of the Old Testament scriptures that almost in the same breath speak of the 1st advent and the 2nd advent, sometimes in that order, sometimes reversed. That's one of the reasons the Jews didn't recognize Jesus as Messiah, cos they were looking for a Conqueror, not a Servant. If the prophecies were like that in the Old Testament - so that the Jews didn't see 2 events - why are we so adament that the verses we use for 2nd advent and the rapture have to be the same event? Isn't it possible that both views are correct? Just a thought. blessings cheri |
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3 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | ebrain | 188182 | ||
Hi Cheri. I do hope you will not consider me patronizing when I say how much I enjoyed reading your post, your insight is most refreshing. Allow me to support your understanding with the material bellow. John the Baptist was proclaiming, "a Conqueror, not a Servant", see the following verses. Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, "Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Mat 3:10 "And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Mat 3:12 "His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire." Now read the passage in Luke Ch 7 from verse 12, through verse 28, and you will note that John's disciples reported to him that Jesus was only behaving as a servant, and not a Conqueror, as they were expecting from John's ministry.. That of course is why John did what is described in v 19.. You will note,however, that before Jesus answered them in v 22, He did first what is described in v 21. Now ask yourself the question why was it that after saying, "Go and report to John what you have seen and heard:", that Jesus then went on to describe what they had, just seen and heard.. Well the reason is that He was actually referring to Scripture, a passage with which He knew John would be familiar, namely. Is 35:4 Say to those with anxious heart, "Take courage, fear not. Behold, your God will come with vengeance; The recompense of God will come, But He will save you." Is 35:5 Then the eyes of the blind will be opened And the ears of the deaf will be unstopped. Is 35:6 Then the lame will leap like a deer, And the tongue of the mute will shout for joy. For waters will break forth in the wilderness And streams in the Arabah. Note that what Jesus was is in fact implying is, "I only came this first time to fulfill verses 5, and 6, whereas you John are preaching verse 4". But then you see, as verse 28 tells us John was only born once, whereas we who are in the "Kingdom",are born twice. It will not have escaped your notice, that our Lord did not speak highly of John, until after John's two disciples had departed, why was that I wonder? Blessings Edwin. |
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4 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | skccab | 188183 | ||
Thank you, Edwin, I enjoyed your post as well. It's strange how some things are so clear and others can be so murky. But one thing is very clear - 1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. I can barely wait!! Can you? blessings cheri |
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5 | Are there any scriptures for the rapture | 2 Pet 3:10 | ebrain | 188359 | ||
Hi Cheri. Thank you for your kind words, perhaps you will enjoy this post as well. Regards. Edwin. One of the reasons why I support the "Pre-Trib", position, is because of what our Lord Jesus said, as recorded by Matthew, and Luke, see bellow. Mat 24:37 "But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Mat 24:38 "For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, Mat 24:39 "and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Mat 24:40 "Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Mat 24:41 "Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Luk 17:26 "And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: Luk 17:27 "They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. Luk 17:28 "Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; Luk 17:34 "I tell you, in that night there will be two men in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left. Luk 17:35 "Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. Luk 17:36 "Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left."[fn4] I could be wrong of course, but it seems to me that what Jesus was saying is that Noah was "taken", (a picture of the rapture), whereas the others were "left", and were drowned.. In Luke's account, he ads the example of Lot being "taken out", of Sodom, whereas the others were "left", to be destroyed.. Also I feel that my understanding is supported by the Scripture verse bellow. 1Sa 15:6 Then Saul said to the Kenites, "Go, depart, get down from among the Amalekites, lest I destroy you with them. For you showed kindness to all the children of Israel when they came up out of Egypt." So the Kenites departed from among the Amalekites. |
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