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1 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Beja | 207534 | ||
This question regards Heb 6:4-6. My question is this: could somebody who believes that you can not loose your salvation tell me how you understand this verse? In an attempt to save waisted time let me say a few things. First, I believe in the eternal security of the believer therefore there is no need to convince me of that doctrine. I'm looking how this verse is compatable with that doctrine. Second, I do not find the arguement that I have heard some people say, that this verse is talking about hypothetically "if we could loose our salvation." That explination does not fit within the context at all in my opinion. So if you do think that really is the explination, you need to argue it in good detail and show exactly how this is Paul's line of reasoning. Third, I do feel I might have my own answer, but it relies on stating that the translators of the NASB have not chosen the best translation of a particular participle within this passage. Not in definition but in terms of syntax. However, I'm not entirely comfortable with that answer so I am seeking what other answer there "might" be. Thank you in advance for your thoughts. |
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2 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | loavesnfish | 232340 | ||
Dear Beja, You have been so helpful with my questions that I decided to try to answer some of yours in thanks. These verses are a stumblingblock for many people because they focus too narrowly and miss the greater context. The book of Hebrews, as you know, was written to people steeped in Mosaic teaching and customs who held the Law as the very highest expression of how man should relate to God. The author of Hebrews is trying to get them to see that Jesus (Yeshua to them) and faith in Him as a result of grace is so much higher even than the Law, that everything else should be viewed as below it. So any departure from grace and faith in Jesus in behavior was a fall to a lower level which is no longer efficacious for salvation or knowing God. In other words, there is no more going back to what they once knew, because Christ has superceded it. In 6:1-3 the author talks about pressing on to maturity, then verses 4-6, which you are concerned about, emphasize what is NOT the way to maturity: retuning to the Law, etc. at the lower level which they previously left behind. Verses 4-8 are what would THEORETICALLY happen to someone who does that, but Judas Iscariot is the only one it might fit, because Jesus stopped keeping him in order to fulfill the Scripture (John 17:12). Jesus guards and keeps ALL who truly come to Him and no one snatches them out of the Father's hand, as you know. So, what the author is really doing here is showing a picture (recrucifying Christ) of how appalling it is in God's eyes to return to the Law etc. The author wants to shake them up emotionally by the contrast to set them free from their old ideas which could lead them astray. The teaching method is very much like that of Matthew 5:29 where the shock value helps carry the seriousness of the message. I hope that helps. In Christ, loavesnfish |
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