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1 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | hopalong | 207614 | ||
HI Beja These folks are NOT believers, they are apostates! Tasting alone does not mean that they went on to eat and enjoy. One may partake, without believing. for instance I may partake of a Church service (even enjoy it) and leave and leave empty. I suggest you allow scripture interpret scripture. of God Bless, Hopalong |
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2 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Beja | 207616 | ||
Ok, this is a valid view point. I disagree. But it is a valid view. The question I forward to you is this, if these people are not believers, and never were. Why can't they be moved to repentance? And why does it say moved to repentance "again." If we hold this position, then we are in essence saying that at a certain amount of hearing the gospel, then people are finally excluded from it. Yet how many people hear it for decades and finally surrender to it? As I said, its a valid view point but I personally at the moment can't bring myself to agree both based on the basis of the words the passage uses, and then based on the scenerio that seems to represent. I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying I currently think there isn't enough to tip the scales for me to buy into it. | ||||||
3 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | hopalong | 207622 | ||
You seem to be reluctant to move from your belief that these "tasters" and "partakers",are regenerate, and that despite a mountain of scripural evidence to the contrary! The answer follows.. Heb 6:5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, Heb 6:6 and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. WHY? Heb 6:7 For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God; Heb 6:8 but if it yields thorns and thistles, it is worthless and close to being cursed, and it ends up being burned. Heb 6:9 But, beloved, we are convinced of better things concerning you, and things that accompany salvation, though we are speaking in this way. Can a good tree bear bad fruit! I dun tink so. Hoppy |
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4 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Beja | 207624 | ||
I have yet to see this mountain to which you refer. I can though see what your view point is, I will forward the question to you which I have asked of each of the others who have held this interpretation. Why is it that somebody who was not saved but has walked away from it not later repent? And why does the author state that the reason they can't is because they again crucify the christ for themselves? Shall I just not point out the weak points in various arguements so we can persue the best understanding possible? |
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5 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | hopalong | 207626 | ||
ANS: Repentance is a gift from God . Acts 11:18 When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, "Well then, God has granted to the Gentiles also the repentance that leads to life." Acts 5:31 "He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. Cor 7:10 For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death. Hoppy |
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6 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Morant61 | 207628 | ||
Greetings Hoppy! Beja made a good point though, vs. 6 speaks of 'renewing them again to repentance'. The 'again' indicates that they had already repented once before. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | hopalong | 207632 | ||
Hi Tim, Yes, I agree. However I believe that regarding doctrine, it is advisable to allow scripture to interpret scripture. It is inadvisable to found a doctrine on a solitary verse. Hoppy Kind regards, |
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