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1 | Do you have scriptures to affirm? | 2 Thess 2:3 | CDBJ | 187686 | ||
Greetings M.Royal, For every verse of Scripture that speaks of Christ's first coming there are eight that talk about His second coming. CDBJ |
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2 | What is Christs first coming? | 2 Thess 2:3 | M.Royal | 187745 | ||
Hello CDBJ, May I ask what are you referring to as Christs first coming? M.Royal |
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3 | What is Christs first coming? | 2 Thess 2:3 | CDBJ | 187758 | ||
The period of time from His birth until He died for my sins and then rose up from the dead and ascended to the throne of God where He sits at the Father’s right hand. It covered about a 33 year period of time; referred to as His first advent. CDBJ |
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4 | Why do we teach otherwise? | 2 Thess 2:3 | M.Royal | 187765 | ||
Thanks CDBJ, The reason I asked is because with regard to Christs first advent and second advent there are no other advents/comings of Christ, so how is it that when the rapture is taught it is not in line with either the first advent which is plain that it could not be, or the second which according to scripture takes place at the last/seventh trumpet (1 Cor.15:51,52. Rev.10:7. Rev.11:15-19. The trumpets mentioned are found in Rev.8:-Revelation 11:.These trumpets are there as the consequence of the reign of the antichrist (Rev.14:8-10) With the understanding that according to the scripture, 1 Cor.15:51,52 is the last/seventh trumpet it can only take place after the tribulation, so why do we teach otherwise? M.Royal |
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5 | Why do we teach otherwise? | 2 Thess 2:3 | mark d seyler | 187768 | ||
M.Royal, Why would you think that the "last trump" of 1 Cor 15 is the "seventh trumpet" in Revelation? Are you thinking that no more trumpets will be blown after that? Since Zecheriah 14 specifies that the feast of Tabernacles will be kept during the millenium, and trumpets are to be blown during the feast of tabernacles, we know that there will be other trumpets sounded. Not to mention the likelyhood of more times beyond this. Granted, the 7 trumpets are a series, and one of those will be the last of that particular series, but why pick this series of trumpets? There are several other series of trumpet blowing mentioned in Scripture. Since 1 Thess 4 talks about this being perhaps the "trumpet of God", why pick a trumpet sounded by an angel? What would you offer as conclusive Scriptural teaching that this "last trump" is the seventh trumpet in Revelation? Love in Christ, Mark |
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6 | Why do we teach otherwise? | 2 Thess 2:3 | M.Royal | 187842 | ||
Hi Mark, I realize that I have left one of your questions unanswered regarding the seventh/last trumpet. The answer is that it is the only trumpet that has Christ returning, none of the other trumpets have it, plus the other trumpets mentioned that sound before the seventh would be out of order. M.Royal |
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7 | Why do we teach otherwise? | 2 Thess 2:3 | mark d seyler | 187850 | ||
Revelation 11:15-19 (15) And the seventh angel trumpeted. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of the world became our Lord's, even of His Christ; and He shall reign to the ages of the ages. (16) And the twenty four elders sitting before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, (17) saying, We thank You, Lord God Almighty, the One who is, and who was, and who is coming, because You took Your great power and reigned. (18) And the nations were full of wrath; and Your wrath came, and the time of the judging of the dead, and to give the reward to Your slaves, to the prophets, and to the saints, and to the ones fearing Your name, to the small and to the great, and to destroy those destroying the earth. (19) And the temple of God in Heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple, and lightnings, and voices, and thunders, and an earthquake, and a great hail occurred. As this is the passage concerning the sounding of the seventh trumpet, I don't see here either the rapture of the church, or the coming of Jesus in the clouds, to the earth. ? Love in Christ, Mark |
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8 | Do you have any scriptures? | 2 Thess 2:3 | M.Royal | 187893 | ||
Hi Mark, Matthew 24:29-31 clearly states "immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken; And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven;and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" Matt. 24:29-30. These are the words of Christ that his return is after the tribulation, and since the trumpets with Gods wrath is poured out on the antichrist and those that worshipped him (Rev.14:9-13). again I must ask do you have any scriptures to the confirm what you believe? M.Royal |
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9 | Do you have any scriptures? | 2 Thess 2:3 | stjohn | 187984 | ||
Hi M.Royal I hope you don't mind my asking, but where does it say that the rapture/catching away, has to be the same event, as Christ's coming in judgment? That seems to be a supposition. And I'm kinda wondering if you are going to answer Marks question, you kinda left it laying there? I thought the ball was in your cort. so to speak. I was really trying to follow this discussion but it is getting a little confusing when someone asks for scripture to lend authority to the asking of a question, that he was using scripture to ask! That doesn't really follow a logical line of reasoning. Would you please clear things up for me? Thanks. God bless. John |
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10 | Do you have any scriptures? | 2 Thess 2:3 | M.Royal | 188005 | ||
Hi John, So far we have not had any scriptures actually relating to what we call the rapture, so of coure until we can have scriptures to agree with what we call rapture we can only hold on to what we have. M.Royal |
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11 | Do you have any scriptures? | 2 Thess 2:3 | mark d seyler | 188011 | ||
Hi M.Royal, I'd like to go back to this for a moment. If you wish to continue the discussion, we need to progress in an orderly manner. Where does the Bible teach that the events described at the sounding of the 7th trumpet include the second coming of Jesus? Or the rapture of the church? Would please be so kind as to point that out for me? Revelation 11:15-19 (15) And the seventh angel trumpeted. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of the world became our Lord's, even of His Christ; and He shall reign to the ages of the ages. (16) And the twenty four elders sitting before God on their thrones fell on their faces and worshiped God, (17) saying, We thank You, Lord God Almighty, the One who is, and who was, and who is coming, because You took Your great power and reigned. (18) And the nations were full of wrath; and Your wrath came, and the time of the judging of the dead, and to give the reward to Your slaves, to the prophets, and to the saints, and to the ones fearing Your name, to the small and to the great, and to destroy those destroying the earth. (19) And the temple of God in Heaven was opened, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple, and lightnings, and voices, and thunders, and an earthquake, and a great hail occurred. Love in Christ, Mark |
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12 | Do you have any scriptures? | 2 Thess 2:3 | M.Royal | 188057 | ||
Hi Mark, When you have a moment and check all seven angels which have the seven trumpets, and look at the events that they have, you will see that the seventh/last trumpet is the only one concerning the mystery of God being fulfilled, and the end, also the seventh vial, at which is said "it is done Rev.16:17. as did Jesus, Rev.21:1-8. I hope this goes some ways to answering your question, if you need further info let me know. Yours Sincerely M.Royal |
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