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1 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | Morant61 | 148987 | ||
Greetings EdB! Again, I would ask my friend, who do you think should decide? Would you be content for me to tell you what Scripture means? Would you be content for Searcher to tell you? Suppose several of us got together as a group, would you be content for the group to decide for you? I understand your frustration, but there is no workable solution. I would not be content for you to tell me what a verse means, if I can read it and it obviously doesn't say what you claimed. :-) So, what would your solution be my friend? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | EdB | 148992 | ||
Tim I did not say I had a solution nor do I really offer one. My complaint is while Sola Scriptura and boldly stating every man can decide for himself sounds good, it has opened the door for the mess we are in. In truth I’m tired of everyone claiming Sola Scriptura and inventing, holding, arguing, and forcing down the throat of everyone else their view. I’m also very concerned over the increasing divisions within the church. I’m beginning to see denominations fracturing within themselves further isolating one body of believers from genuine fellowship with other believers. I suspect the only real way to fix the problem would be to take the established doctrine of the church in say 100 AD and uncover the; what, when, why, where and how come of each doctrine. Requiring it to be traced by proper exegesis to scripture and/or oral explanation by an apostle. Then use that as litmus test and say any that does hold or modifies these teachings is not a true Christian. Incidently Sola Scriptura would not be one, that is a fairly recent concept and one that was not practiced in the church for 1500 years. EdB |
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3 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | Morant61 | 149026 | ||
Greetings EdB! Methinks that you are giving 'Sola Scriptura' a bad rap! ;-) This doctrine does not say that we can make Scripture say anything that we want it to say. It simply says that Scripture is the only source for faith and practice - i.e. that neither you nor anyone else can force a teaching down my throat unless it is found in Scripture. ;-) Sola Scriptura is about submiting to the authority of God as revealed in His Word. It is not about 'deciding for myself' what I want to submit to! There are many things in Scripture that I wish I could take out! ;-) But, because I have submitted myself to God and His Word, I can't! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | EdB | 149035 | ||
Tim There is an ancillary side of sola scriptura that no one ever wants to discuss. That is every man would decide for himself what scripture is saying. Forget training, forget understanding of social/historical customs and traditions, the social and economic pressures Christians were facing and in some cases the scripture is addressing. If you try to bring those into to focus people will say I don’t see it in the Bible therefore that should have no effect. While others will excuse away much because they say this was just addressing a one time situation or a custom or social tradition of the time. There are definite prohibitions listed in the Bible, one groups takes them as finite and follows them to the letter, another group tempers them and bends them saying this is addressing a situation that doesn’t really exist today, another group embraces what was prohibited saying the prohibition was merely resolving an issue in that one circumstance and God never intended it for today. Look around the homosexual agenda is making inroads into the church convincing people that the prohibition was addressing prostitution not the act of homosexuality. And the people have thrown off the restraint of earthly council saying I can decide for myself what God meant here. Of course I agree that no law, doctrine, ordinance be made that is not specifically in the Bible. I have no problem with that what I have the problem with is everyone deciding for themselves what exactly the Bible says. We see in scripture that God established earthly council setting in place the five ministry positions and that man has continually resisted that council. In almost every case of resistance the word “my interpretation of scripture says thus and such so I stand in ‘opposition’ to you.” The word ‘opposition’ should be ‘rebellion’ if we believe God in fact is sovereign and places those in one of those five ministry positions that he desires to be in there. EdB |
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