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1 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | DocTrinsograce | 148767 | ||
Dear brother Ed, How many denominationalists believe in denominationalism for the sake of being a denomination? Don't you suppose that "Denominations have emerged for legitimate reasons" (as Tommy Reid, an AG pastor in New York writes)? Might some of these reasons still exist? It is inconceivable that Christ's prayer in John 17 was ineffective, or that the Father failed to honor it, or that it was just wishful thinking! (Paul says in Romans 12:5 and Ephesians 2:20-22 that we *are* all one.) Was Paul writing to all Christians everywhere, or to a particular church in the letters to the Corinthians? Was he speaking to the disunity of all believers everywhere, or to a specific church that was in serious trouble? I'm strongly non-denominational, but these passages are not the ones upon which I base this belief. Frankly, I'm non-denominational because of passages like Matthew 23:8-10. Possibly even more convincing is history! (Imagine, John Bunyan could have been released any time during his 12 years in prison by just promising not to preach!) Just my 2 mites... feel free to ignore. :-) In Him, Doc |
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2 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | EdB | 148875 | ||
Doc You said, "How many denominationalists believe in denominationalism for the sake of being a denomination? Don't you suppose that "Denominations have emerged for legitimate reasons" (as Tommy Reid, an AG pastor in New York writes)? Might some of these reasons still exist?" My question is were they legitimate reasons or were they reasons for division that Satan used to divde the church? Is it worth going to the stake over being immersed or sprinkled? Is it worth going to the stake over type of church government? Is it worth going to the stake over how a pastor is chosen. Is it worth going to stake over how church properity is titled? All of these and many many more divide the church of Christ today. EdB |
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3 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | DocTrinsograce | 149041 | ||
Dear Brother Ed, Good questions! Here are a few more: Is it worth being burned at the stake for refusing to sell spiritual benefits to finance a war (John Huss); or to be strangled and burned for not promising to stop preaching the gospel (Wendelinuta, Protestant widow); or to be beheaded and burned for being a Protestant minister (George Scherter); or to be beheaded for having Luther's sermons in your possession (Justus Insparg); or to be burned at the stake for your faith (Coomans); burned at the stake for not obeying the pope (Lord Cobham); or to be tortured and burned for attending Huguenot services; or to be burned alive and your goods confiscated so that your wife and their children starve (Thomas Harding); or to be burned at the stake for not acknowledging the presence of the real flesh in the sacrament (Traxnal); or to be burned at the stake for speaking against an idol (William Letton); or to be hung and burned for refusing holy communion (William Hunter); or to be burned for refusing the pope's false doctrines (Thomas Cramner); or to be one of forty Protestants whose throats were cut by priests so that they "might not fall," even though they recanted; or to be whipped and banished for being a Quaker (William Robinson, Marmaduke Stevenson, Mary Dyar, and Nicholas Davis); or to be sent to the Gulag for possessing a Bible; or to be beheaded in front of a mosque for passing out Arabic New Testaments; etc. etc. etc. I say, YES! It is worth being an advocate of the truth at the cost of home, respect, prestige, position, family, limb, and life! If the truth cost the lives of prophets, apostles, teachers, preachers, and other believers -- and even our Lord Jesus Himself -- why should I be any less willing to give my all for so a great a prize? Your question, "...were they legitimate reasons," must be asked of those who stood amidst the smoldering faggots and those who kindled the fire. Those dying would say, "Yes, I die for legitimate reasons." Those doing the killing would say, "Yes, we kill for legitimate reasons." Frankly, I'd say, the much more Christian behavior is for those of us to part company and worship in different buildings, even when they may be side by side! Why is this a superior? For many obvious reasons! Such a solution leaves the ultimate decision of legitimacy in the hands of the Lord. Meanwhile, we have time to deliberate over the Word of God in order to validate the legitimacy of our own reasons! It allows the wheat to grow, although among the tares, such that the wheat can live peaceable lives to the glory of their Lord. The gates of hell will not prevail against the one, true, invisible Body of Christ! God is in control, not the Adversary! In Him, Doc |
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4 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | lionheart | 149044 | ||
Doc, Good day my brother.Parting company,yes,but only for a season I pray. In Christ, lionheart |
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5 | denominations. | Eph 4:3 | DocTrinsograce | 149046 | ||
Dear Lionheart, Amen! Indeed, we share the hope of glory! :-) In Him, Doc |
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