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1 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | EdB | 58987 | ||
Melanie Teaching and learning is a two way street as is communications. If the one or the other perceives the other has misunderstood what was said then they have the responsibility to rectify the situation. If kalos misunderstood Deb rather than Deb using this to teach him some kind of lesson, she owed it to him to rectify the situation. In my case if I misunderstood Deb or her intent then it is her responsibility to rectify that. The burden lies with whoever recognizes the problem. Kalos thought she was attacking the authority of the Bible. From what she said so do I. As soon as Deb realized that she was misunderstood she should have restated her comment so that her intent could plainly be understood. Instead she choose to let the misunderstanding stand and tired to use it to show someone up. That is not a Christian motive, action or reaction. EdB |
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2 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58992 | ||
I'll not really argue the point, but I will ask you to think about something. Her question was posed in a discussion on how to discern what was meant when something was plainly stated. She plainly asked what did HE think...Yes, the emphasis is mine, but how do you think I got what she meant? I didn't understand at first what her problem was with you either, but I finally, I think the third time, went back to the original post and I got it. With the problem she created (so to speak) she was addressing the problem of how things can be misunderstood even when plainly spoken. The words alone are sometimes not enough to avoid misunderstanding. I could be wrong, but I think she stated her comment because she wanted Kalos to see that he could misunderstand a simple joining together of words. I think she knew she would be misunderstood, but she wanted him to see that, then she wanted you to see it when you joined in. I misunderstood her, too,but when she sent that "for the third time" post, I went back and looked at her first post to Kalos and 'ah ha', understanding dawned. It was a teaching method, and I don't know if Christian or not, but it was valid for teaching. I got it. Eventually. And I think, if tempers hadn't flared, her's too, don't get me wrong, she might have finally explained her point. But I don't know that for sure either. Love, Melanie |
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3 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | EdB | 58998 | ||
Melanie Okay now how would you take it if I said, "You heard from me also and miss quoted and yet you decided that this person is right? Is she god to you?" That was Deb's response to me, first I never heard her side, second I never misquoted her, third I wasn't defending Kalos anymore than trying to explain how her comments read to Kalos and to myself. Then she launched a personal attack on me. Personally I think your giving her way to much credit. I still think she said exactly what she said because that is how she felt. I think then something opened her eyes to the lie. About that time you came up with this teaching thing and off we went. Her action and her reaction speak more than her words. Do I hold bitterness, no. Do I hold unforgiveness? Let me say I hold not malice toward Deb, concern yes malice or unforgiveness no. If I have been the problem rather than the solution then I ask for forgiveness. Again if I'm wrong in this I apologize to Deb and to you but Deb's action is not something that should be encouraged on a Christian forum. EdB |
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4 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59003 | ||
You don't have to apologize to me. I think you handled yourself as a gentlemen and a Christian. I've told you before I wish I had your manner, and I am trying really hard to adopt it. My problem for the last few posts is that it is still upsetting you. But you've taught me something even in this post. You're concerned. Even in my last post I told you I had rebuked, forgiven and held no malice towards the person who'd come out of the blue to call me a gossip, etc., but I didn't take it that final step and feel concern. And maybe you're right. Maybe she did say exactly what she said because that's how she felt, and I'm giving her too much credit. But we did "off we went", didn't we? So maybe she has learned something, too. We've made one or two valid points in these postings, haven't we? And if you are right, and she hasn't learned anything, then it's not because we didn't try, is it? Back to Micah. Love, Melanie |
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