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1 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | EdB | 58911 | ||
Deb Should someone/anyone be prosecuted on the testimony of one witness? In a rape there is usually more than just one witness. I can think of DNA, evidence of violence/struggle, left behind hair samples, skin from scratching, other witnesses, blood type, identifying marks, finger prints and etc. In any case my question again would you want anybody man or women convicted on the lone testimony of one person? Also this is a Bible study not a study on human reasoning, God said for someone to found guilty of a crime there had to be more than one witness. Like it or not that is what God said, Kalos is not causing problems for rape victims. EdB |
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2 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | kalos | 58944 | ||
EdB: You so correctly and accurately write: "That is what God said, Kalos is not causing problems for rape victims." Thank you, Ed. I am glad to see that someone plainly understands what I plainly said and meant. Since I began participating in the forum (nine days after its inception), I, "the sloppy teacher" and sloppy author of 2,875 sloppy postings, have learned something that absolutely amazes me. And that is, all you have to do is quote bare words of Scripture and point out what the Bible means by what it says and you will make many people angry. Very angry. Grace and peace to you, kalos |
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3 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58973 | ||
Quantity does not equal quality. The size of the universe is one of the arguments that old-Earth creationists use as argument for their aging of the Earth. And being a youg-Earth creationist believer myself, I disagree with them, and think their opinion is untrue as well. And you have just confirmed my definition of a sloppy teacher. You have no wish for your students to understand. If I take 'something to mean', then that is my understanding of it. If I am misunderstanding, then a good teacher will seek to clear up my misunderstanding because his goal is that I should understand. Your method is that if I misunderstand then I'm just disobedient or too stupid to get it, or a Paul basher, or a God basher, and not worthy of your efforts. That's not called teaching, it's called ruling. How extraordinary if the only amazing thing you have learned in this forum with all that interaction is that you have the capacity to make people angry. Doesn't that make you wonder at all if maybe it just might have something to do with you and not the Word? And catch up--I'm not angry. That was two days ago. Now I'm troubled. How do I get you to impart some wisdom out of all your knowledge? And sad, because I read an earlier post of yours that convinces me there is wisdom there. Longing to learn, but not willing to have 'welcome' printed on my back, she |
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4 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | EdB | 58987 | ||
Melanie Teaching and learning is a two way street as is communications. If the one or the other perceives the other has misunderstood what was said then they have the responsibility to rectify the situation. If kalos misunderstood Deb rather than Deb using this to teach him some kind of lesson, she owed it to him to rectify the situation. In my case if I misunderstood Deb or her intent then it is her responsibility to rectify that. The burden lies with whoever recognizes the problem. Kalos thought she was attacking the authority of the Bible. From what she said so do I. As soon as Deb realized that she was misunderstood she should have restated her comment so that her intent could plainly be understood. Instead she choose to let the misunderstanding stand and tired to use it to show someone up. That is not a Christian motive, action or reaction. EdB |
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5 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58992 | ||
I'll not really argue the point, but I will ask you to think about something. Her question was posed in a discussion on how to discern what was meant when something was plainly stated. She plainly asked what did HE think...Yes, the emphasis is mine, but how do you think I got what she meant? I didn't understand at first what her problem was with you either, but I finally, I think the third time, went back to the original post and I got it. With the problem she created (so to speak) she was addressing the problem of how things can be misunderstood even when plainly spoken. The words alone are sometimes not enough to avoid misunderstanding. I could be wrong, but I think she stated her comment because she wanted Kalos to see that he could misunderstand a simple joining together of words. I think she knew she would be misunderstood, but she wanted him to see that, then she wanted you to see it when you joined in. I misunderstood her, too,but when she sent that "for the third time" post, I went back and looked at her first post to Kalos and 'ah ha', understanding dawned. It was a teaching method, and I don't know if Christian or not, but it was valid for teaching. I got it. Eventually. And I think, if tempers hadn't flared, her's too, don't get me wrong, she might have finally explained her point. But I don't know that for sure either. Love, Melanie |
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6 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | EdB | 58998 | ||
Melanie Okay now how would you take it if I said, "You heard from me also and miss quoted and yet you decided that this person is right? Is she god to you?" That was Deb's response to me, first I never heard her side, second I never misquoted her, third I wasn't defending Kalos anymore than trying to explain how her comments read to Kalos and to myself. Then she launched a personal attack on me. Personally I think your giving her way to much credit. I still think she said exactly what she said because that is how she felt. I think then something opened her eyes to the lie. About that time you came up with this teaching thing and off we went. Her action and her reaction speak more than her words. Do I hold bitterness, no. Do I hold unforgiveness? Let me say I hold not malice toward Deb, concern yes malice or unforgiveness no. If I have been the problem rather than the solution then I ask for forgiveness. Again if I'm wrong in this I apologize to Deb and to you but Deb's action is not something that should be encouraged on a Christian forum. EdB |
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7 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59003 | ||
You don't have to apologize to me. I think you handled yourself as a gentlemen and a Christian. I've told you before I wish I had your manner, and I am trying really hard to adopt it. My problem for the last few posts is that it is still upsetting you. But you've taught me something even in this post. You're concerned. Even in my last post I told you I had rebuked, forgiven and held no malice towards the person who'd come out of the blue to call me a gossip, etc., but I didn't take it that final step and feel concern. And maybe you're right. Maybe she did say exactly what she said because that's how she felt, and I'm giving her too much credit. But we did "off we went", didn't we? So maybe she has learned something, too. We've made one or two valid points in these postings, haven't we? And if you are right, and she hasn't learned anything, then it's not because we didn't try, is it? Back to Micah. Love, Melanie |
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