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1 | The Suffering of the Church | Acts 8:2 | strts5 | 217588 | ||
That is interesting Theology, I don't know that I buy it. I believe God can turn any situation into Glory for Himself, but I can't seem to find any scripture where God uses suffering to lead us. He uses His Holy Spirit to lead and I don't know that there is any suffering in the Holy Spirit. In the O.T. there was suffering as a result of sin, and God did teach His people through suffering, but suffering was not His tool for teaching or inspiring. Suffering in ALL forms is EVIL and SATANIC. It is the opposite of the Kingdom of Heaven. There is Heb 5:8 but I don't think you can argue Christ suffered until the cross, and I don't believe that was a learning experience. In Him, Mike |
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2 | The Suffering of the Church | Acts 8:2 | Makarios | 217602 | ||
Greetings Mike, Others have posted some great replies here to your statement that "suffering in all forms is evil and satanic" which I hope you are able to retract: Acts 14:22 "strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying, "Through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God." Romans 5:3 "And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance;" Ephesians 3:13 "Therefore I ask you not to lose heart at my tribulations on your behalf, for they are your glory." Hebrews 10:32-33 "But remember the former days, when, after being enlightened, you endured a great conflict of sufferings, partly by being made a public spectacle through reproaches and tribulations, and partly by becoming sharers with those who were so treated. For you showed sympathy to the prisoners and accepted joyfully the seizure of your property, knowing that you have for yourselves a better possession and a lasting one." Mark 10:29-30 "Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or farms, for My sake and for the gospel's sake, but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life." Blessings to you, Makarios |
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