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1 | The Suffering of the Church | Acts 8:2 | strts5 | 217612 | ||
Hi all, Let me clarify. When this dispensation is over and we enter into eternity with Christ will there be any suffering? Why not? There is suffering in this life as a result of a fallen world, and we as Christians must endure it. The difference between a Christian and non-Christian, we both endure suffering, only God strengthens the Christian through suffering. Do we learn from suffering and grow stronger in our faith if we persevere, absolutely. The statement I was making is that the suffering is not from God. Suffering is already in this world, God allows us go through suffering, but suffering in itself is a byproduct of sin and death and that is not from God. As Christians we are supposed to triumph over suffering and learn patience that God will make us victorious over it. So, I will stand by my statement, ALL SUFFERING IS EVIL!!! ISAIAH 48:10 NKJ 10 Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction. JAMES 1:2-3 NKJ 2 My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, 3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. |
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2 | The Suffering of the Church | Acts 8:2 | CDBJ | 217623 | ||
Greetings, I find it very hard trying to understand, from your point of view, that God has actually called us His children to evil. 1 Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: The words in the English, “For even hereunto” are translated from one preposition in the Koine Greek and it is the word, EIS, which is a primary preposition of purpose. It is God’s “purpose” that we should suffer and using your form of exegesis it would be God’s purpose to call us for an evil purpose as well as that of Christ Himself. “ When scripture contradicts scripture we don’t have truth and when we find verses in opposition to our assumptions, scripture stands in judgment of us we don’t stand in judgment of it!” (R.A. Tozer) 1 Peter 5:5 (B) and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. CDBJ |
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3 | The Suffering of the Church | Acts 8:2 | strts5 | 217627 | ||
CDBJ, If God calls you to China to be a missionary and while there you are arrested, sent to labor prison and die, you will be rewarded in Heaven for your suffering. Was the suffering good or evil? The suffering was evil! God is rewarding you for the evil you endured for His name sake and counting it as good. Suffering is the physical manifestation of evil! I don't understand how very educated people can be so confused about a very simple concept. In love Mike |
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4 | The Suffering of the Church | Acts 8:2 | BradK | 217628 | ||
Hello Mike, Please, let's get back on topic,my friend! You made the statement that, "ALL SUFFERING IS EVIL!!!". You then, reasserted that you stood behind it! There is absolutely no biblical support for this! None! Please provide your basis from scripture. I'm an educated person and am not confused about a "simple concept". Frankly, I think you're confused. Your analogy doesn't hold water! Scripture alone is our source for truth. It either supports what you said, or it does not! You've yet to provide one shred of support- from the Bible! I'm not confused, but I'm sure waiting... Speaking the Truth in Love BradK |
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