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1 | When does the Baptism occur? | John 7:38 | Robert Nicholson | 43536 | ||
dear brother Markarios: I agree that the moment we are born again or born from above,(John 3) that we are indwelt or sealed by the Holy Spirit and are "baptized into one body" 1Cor.12:13 which is often referred to as the church which is his body. Believers baptism as you have indicated is the outward profession of the inward change, identifying us with the Lord Jesus Christ. In the times of the early church, for a believer to make this outward proclaimation, "that I belong to Christ and am set apart to live for him" placed them in a place of ridicule and persecution. I enjoy the thought given by Paul "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." 2 Cor. 5:17 This verse would teach us that the moment we are in Christ, the Spirit of God changes us. This is one of the proves that we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit of God. In reference to your initial verse John 7:38 I believe we have the promise that once a sinner by faith drinks of the living fountain, that from within will flow outward the fruit of the Holy Spirit in their lives. One last thing, do you not think that we have to recognize that immediately after the cross was a time of transition when we find the Holy Spirit was imparted by the laying on of hands by the apostles. We see however, that by Acts 10 that as Peter preached to the Gentiles that the Holy Spirit fell upon them when they heard the word. In Acts 10:47 we see the order "Can any man forbid water that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?" God bless you brother Robert |
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2 | When does the Baptism occur? | John 7:38 | Robert Nicholson | 43788 | ||
Dear brother Markarios: I believe there are events in the early days of the church which were transitional as in the case of receiving the Holy Spirit. In Acts 8:14-17 we read "When the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, who when they were come down prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (for as yet he was fallen upon none of them only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost." Another example was in the case of Saul of Tarsus who in Acts 9:17 received the Holy Spirit when Ananias laid hands upon him. However, in Acts 10:44 "While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them that heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit. We find as I mentioned in V47 that after they had received the Holy Ghost they were baptised in the name of the Lord. In the early examples we have believers who were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and later received the Holy Spirit by the Laying on of hands. I believe however, that my last reference shows us the order in which things happen today. They hear and believe the Word, are immediately indwelt with the Holy Ghost and then baptized in the name of the Lord. When we by the Spirit of God are made to see our need of Christ and except him as our saviour we are born again or born from above, we are indwelt by the Holy Spirit making us new creatures in Christ. I look forward to your response your brother in Christ Robert |
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3 | When does the Baptism occur? | John 7:38 | Makarios | 43794 | ||
Greetings Robert! You bring up an interesting point, my friend! :-) Acts 19:6 along with several other passages (Acts 6:6) speak of the apostles laying their hands on people and they recieve spiritual gifts, a special commission, and, in Acts 19:6, the Holy Spirit. I'm going to attempt a study on these verses, and then I will get back with you! Blessings to you, Makarios |
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