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1 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167430 | ||
Read it again please, I never said if it works for me it must be from God. I said, as the Word does, that every good and perfect gift is from God. And yes, I'll take whatever my father has decided to give me. He bought my healing, I'll accept it. And if you have read my other posts, as you say you have. Then you know I'll discuss scripture. I'm not going to stand up and defend Brother Copeland, he doesn't want me to, and he doesn't need me to, Christ will do that. I study the Word of God daily, no need to challenge me to do so. I Study the Word, and I spend time praying in other tongues and in my own understanding, and allowing the Spirit to reveal the word to me. So again, no need to 'challenge' me to do something I already do. And yes, Satan quoted Scripture, what does that prove? If you don't agre with Kenneth Copeland, show him where he is missing it. Use scripture, thast the only thing I'll feel like responding to. I don't base my belief on what some christian institute says, or what Kenneth Copeland says either, I base it on the Word. I don't need the internet to tell me what God said in his Word. So no thank you, but I'll not do any 'reserch' on the net to get a revelation fo the Word. I could care less what all those people have to say about my Brothers and Sistesr in Christ Jesus. I am a Christian man, I love my neighbor, I have no need to listen to hate filled writtings. Like I've said before, I'll talk about scripture, not opinion. If my body is under the curse, then do you think God is a liar when he said Jesus has redemmed me from the curse? And what does it matter how many people have died from sickness? I've had family members die lost and in all probability are in hell right now, does that mean I have to do the same thing? It makes no sense to say that so and so died of cancer, so it must be God's will for that to happen, but you won't say, so and so went to hell, it must be God's will for some people to go to hell. As a matter fo fact, if you believe sickness is sometimes the will of God for people, I hope you are convinced of your beliefs enough to try to clsoe down every hosptital you see, because they might be helping someone that God wants in pain. And I hope when you have children, you get on your knees before the Father, and beg him to give a fatal illness to your children, so that they will be living ina wonderfully perfected will of God. Thats abusrd, you won't do that, why? God Bless, Mitch |
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2 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | jlhetrick | 167477 | ||
Hello again Mitch, You have said a lot here and I won't try to respond to it all. You are offended and that was not my intentions. I know that you did not say that "if it works for me it must be from God". Please reread my post. What I said is that the way you formulated your argument, it sounds to me, it gives me the impression that that is the position you take. That's why we have these exchanges so that we can get clarification. I apologize if I was not clear. I will only respond to one more point here because the ongoing dialogue is sufficient without my continued input. My challenge to you was not as an opposition. Once again, my language. What I should have said instead was, I encourage you to.... And it was not a challenge to read and study scripture as if you don't do that. The challenge, was to encourage you to take the WOF teachings themselves and prove or disprove them in light of scripture. Not a verse here and there, but in light of the context and the overall wider teaching of the bible. As for the other comments you made concerning sickness and hospitals and such, there has been sufficient response to that already. I haven't read them all and perhaps it has already been "encouraged". But if not, read the book of Job. It will be helpful. With sincerety and love, Jeff |
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3 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167507 | ||
I've read the book of Job. Can you show me in there where God did those thigns to Job, or can you show me in that book where God allowed it to happen to Job? There is a huge difference that should be discovered between those two ideas. Also, I do take the 'WOF' as you call it teachings and prove them in light of the entire Word, not only that, but as the Word says, these teachings that many despise, are being proven daily in the lives of many believers. The Lord is working with me and many other preachers confirming his Word with many signs and wonders following. So since the Word backs up what they teach, and since the works back up what they teach, I have no reason to doubt it. And there have been little comment on my comments about hospitals. I would assume its because nobody can say anything about them. Its true, if you think sickness is from God, and you support hospitals, then you are very likely helping someone get healed, that God wants dead. God Bless, Mitch |
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4 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | Morant61 | 167514 | ||
Greetings Mitch! I'll tackle your hospital comment. 1) First of all, if God wants someone dead, my sending them to a hosptial will not prevent it. :-) 2) We are commanded in Scripture to 'heal the sick'. Does this only refer to prayer and miracles, or does it include using every means at our disposal? 3) Finally, Jesus Himself used the example of the Good Samaritan. He praised and held up as an example the actions of the good samaritan. Would He then discourage the use of hospitals? Even is your theological position is accurate, there are many unbelievers in the world. Do you think that God wants us to let them suffer? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167523 | ||
God would never discourage the use of hospitals, they are wonderful tools for those who have not come to the knowledge of Christ their healer. My mother is a nurse, there is nothing wrong with a profession that helps people. I fully support them, I don't need them, but untill someone gets int he Word, and trusts Jesus as their healer, they might need them. From your 1st point, you said If God wants someone dead, then you sending them to the hospital wont prevent it. Then by that same token if God wants someone saved ( which we can agree he wants everyone saved ) should you still give them pornography, should you still give them heroine? No you shouldn't, and how come? Because those things are contrary to the Word of God. If God has made a decree, we better follow it. If God wants something to happen, and if we try to disobey it, and not support it, we are in sin brother. So if God wants someone dead, and you send them to a hospital to try to save their life, you are opposing the work of God. God Bless, Mitch |
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6 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | Morant61 | 167554 | ||
Greetings Mitch! Good try, but no cigar! :-) You can't compare a hospital to pornography or heronine. :-) There is absolutely nothing in Scripture forbidding hospitals. By the way, I wouldn't give anyone pornography. However, if I did, do you think that I could twart God's will and prevent someone from being saved? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167568 | ||
Is there anything in Scripture that forbids you to go against the will of God? Because I'm fairly certain, if you go against God, as Satan does, you are in sin. And it is the exact same thing brother. If a man gets born again, and he was an alcoholic, and in order for him to fully put away that addiction from his life, he needed to stay away from all forms of alcohol, yet if you ran up to him and said, here is some good beer, drink it, besides, if God wants you off the stuff, he'll do it. IF God wants someone dead, and you try to prevent that, then you are in the exact same place as Satan, you are exalting yourself against God. God Bless, Mitch |
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