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1 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167439 | ||
Thank you for bringing scripture before me! Thats why I'm here, I'm eager to discuss the Word of God, so lets get started, and if I miss anything, please let me know. I want to answer all of it. Ok, my point about hospitals is this. If someone thinks that at times God decides someone should have a terrible ilness, and at times he decides that a person should die of a sickness. Then why would we want that person to go the hospital? I believe God does not want men to look at pornography. So I will do everything in my power to make sure its not even an option in my country. I don't even want it on pay per view, or in 'adults only' stores. I don't want it anywhere, because the will of God, is to not have that sin in my nation. So if it is God's will that some people are sick, then if a person believes that, they should never seek medical treatment, because as they think, God will either heal them, or he will not. Also, they should support things like abortion, because maybe God wanted that little child to be pulled limb from limb from their mothers womb. ( Thats absurd isn't it? ) But think about it, is it really God's will that 5000 children a day are killed in abortion, or is it his will for those who get all their skin burned off in a house fire? If a person thinks that sometimes God sends sickness to teach someone a lessson,then I'm simply saing they should praise God for those things, and be happy when their children have the same thing, as well as they should want to see all hospitals shut down, because those hositals might be treating someone, that God wants to die. As for trials, well I can say that in this life we are tried and tested. But I find no scripture that says we are tried by God. Can you? I've yet to find a scripture that says God sends the trial, you could think that at times he has to allow it, because he has made himself dependent on our faith at times, but I see no scripture which says he sends those trials. I believe that there may come a time where I could suffer for Christ, such as being persecuted for my beleive in Jesus, martyred ( spelling sorry ) or put in prison, I understand those things happen, and I would rejoice in those things. But nowhere do we see that sickness and disease are part of our suffering do we? Thats what I see in this passage of Scripture, yes it talks of suffering, but again I ask, where does scritpure say that suffering is sickness and disease. I don't care if they lock me up in prison, God will deliver me out of that wont he? I dont care if they stone me to death, I look up into heaven and see JEsus standing at the right hand of the Father. I'm simply saying, suffering is because of God, because of what I believe, and what people don't want me to belive, not from God. As Romans 8:23 points out, there is still a final redemption for our bodies, when Christ comes back, I will then take on complete imortatility. Luke 21:28 points out that our redemption will come. We then, will be totally redemmed from even persecutions at that point. So what I'm saying brother, is that nowhere in scripture does God send sickness on his children. It might happen in judgement, for those who are disobedient, but God had already made sure there was a way they never had to go through it. God Bless, Mitch |
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2 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | Hank | 167465 | ||
Mitch:: If it's your aim to "discuss the word of God" as you say, then do it! Let's start with something like this. You make a curious statement such as "...(God) has made himself dependent on our faith." -- and don't bother to cite a word of Scripture to back it up. You can't, of course. Since when, Mitch, has the sovereign God become dependent on man for anything under the sun? ..... Apparently my former admonition to you fell on deaf ears, Mitch. What we now have on this Forum are five, not four, gospels: The Gospels according Matthew, Mark, Mitch, Luke and John. --Hank | ||||||
3 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167506 | ||
First let me say I'm sorry you feel the need to have such... hostility towards me. I love you brother, let us discuss these issues with an open heart. I thought I had stated what I meant, and gave scripture for the statement that God has made himself dependant on our faith. Maybe I forgot to hit submit, but let me just reiterate it for you, in case it wasn't actually posted, and in which case, I apologize. 2 Peter 3:9 says that God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentence. Hebrews 11:6 says that without faith it is impossible to please God. Because in order to come to God we have to believe that he is and that he is the rewarder of them that diligently seek him. In other words, if you don't believe in God, and have no faith in God, you can't come to him and recieve the salvation that he wants every man to have. So, what I"m saying is just this. If God wants every man saved, what is keeping every man from being saved? Why did the rich man end up in hell? Why have all of us known someone that died without a relationship with Jesus Christ and in all probability wind up in hell? If God is able to save any man, wether or not he believes on the name of Jesus Christ, then it makes him a very unjust God to let people wind up in hell doesn't it? In other words, if God can make sure a man enters into heaven when he leaves this life, without the man having to do anything on his own to get in, ie without having to confess Jesus, and have no faith, then and only then would God be independent of a mans faith woudln't he? But since God is willing that none should perish, yet to have everlasting life you must have faith, for God to bring you into right standing with himself you must have faith, to please the Father you must have faith, that makes God pretty dependent on your faith in Him doens't it? Hope this cleared things up! Mitch |
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