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1 | Truth | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167401 | ||
You make a wonderful point, when someone doesn't take the time to actually read or listen to what another man has said in his own words, its best not to talk at all. And I think cartoons are already out there somewhere, there is some website called bible.ca or something, which has a bunch of videos a person can watch that are doctored up to make many preachings such as Hagin look foolish. Its interesting though, how they claim they are doing a Christian work, yet they are illegaly copying and distrubiting material that is not only doctored up ( you can see on some of the videos how the men are wearing one suit one instance, and another suit the next, which shows a competent man its faked ) but its also most likely illegal to distribute those without permission from the publishers. Anyways, people should either talk about the Word, or just keep quiet. ITs about time Christians got off their high horse and thought they were allowed to judge every man in this life and never worry about love and compasssion. |
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2 | Truth | John 7:17 | kalos | 167427 | ||
THE ATONEMENT OF CHRIST AND THE "FAITH" MESSAGE (Repost of Note by Radioman2, ID# 83470) 'We will be examining the message as expounded by two recognized leaders of the [WOF] movement: Kenneth E. Hagin and Kenneth (and Gloria) Copeland. (...) [Note by Radioman2: Ellipses in this post represent lengthy quotations from Hagin and Copeland. Space limitations prevent me from including their quotes here. To read the entire article, including quotes and footnote references, go to (www.equip.org/free/DP060.htm)] 'When examining the "Faith" teaching on this subject, two "truths" stand out. It is taught that Jesus "died spiritually" and that, therefore, Jesus had to be born-again. Let's take a closer look at the "what" and the "why" of these views. 'The place to begin is, obviously, to define "spiritual death." (...) 'According to the "Faith" message, spiritual death is more than a separation from God; it entails a distinct change in nature. Spiritual death includes having, in some sense, Satan's nature. 'Building upon this, as we look at the Atonement, we need to next understand whether this "spiritual death" is what Christ suffered for us. (...) 'So it is clear that Jesus, according to these men, suffered the same spiritual death that Adam suffered. In some significant way, His nature must have changed as He took our sin nature -- and hence "Satan's nature" or "spiritual death" -- as His own. But, for such a one as Christ Jesus, what are the implications of this spiritual death? (...) 'Dramatic indeed! And what do these excerpts teach us about Jesus' spiritual death? His nature was radically altered and He was ushered into hell to suffer for three days and nights.' ____________________ Excerpted from: THE ATONEMENT OF CHRIST AND THE "FAITH" MESSAGE by Brian Onken (www.equip.org/free/DP060.htm) Kenneth Hagin in His Own Words: Footnotes for Hagin quotes in the above article: Hagin, Kenneth E. The Authority of the Believer. Tulsa, Oklahoma: Kenneth Hagin Evangelistic Association, 1974. Hagin, Kenneth E. How You Can Know the Will of God. Tulsa, Oklahoma: Kenneth Hagin Evangelistic Association, 1975. Hagin, Kenneth E. "The Incarnation," The Word of Faith, December 1980. Hagin, Kenneth E. In Him. Tulsa, Oklahoma: Faith Library Publications, 1978. Hagin, Kenneth E. "Made Alive," The Word of Faith, April 1982. Hagin, Kenneth E. The Name of Jesus. Tulsa, Oklahoma: Faith Library Publications, 1981. Hagin, Kenneth E. The New Birth. Tulsa, Oklahoma: Faith Library Publications, 1978. Hagin, Kenneth Redeemed From Poverty, Sickness, Death. Tulsa, Oklahoma, Faith Library Publications, 1978. [Have YOU read these publications by Hagin? If not, how do you know he does NOT teach these things?] |
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