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1 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | jlhetrick | 167422 | ||
Hello Mitch, You sound like a man who truly believes in God and is truly thankful for a lot of stuff. What concerns me, however, is your unscriptural approach to living the Christian life. I have read all of your posts here and have read this particular one twice now. What I understand from your words is that; if it works for me it has to be from God. Perhaps even: if it works for me I'll take it. This is very concerning. The "Word of Faith" movement is unorthodox and guilty of "FALSE TEACHING". That specifically includes the leaders within this movement, some of whom you have named in your post. You don't take my word for that, nor Brad's. It is a fact supported by centuries of well established doctrine. This false teaching preys on the one thing that has become one of the greatest misfotunes of Christianity. The fact that most Christians of today have little or no desire to study and know doctrine. as a result we open ourselves up to believe anything at all, especially if there is a benefit in it for us. For example. the WOF teachers use a portion of scripture 'by his stripes we are healed" and assign it meaning that is not only wrong, but proven in every single case to be wrong. You say, "it brings total physcial healing to my body" referring to the Cross. Wrong. Your body remains under the curse and will die. How many people do you know that believe like you say you do, who have developed physical illness and who have died. I know, I know, the teachers would have you believe that their illness were brought on by sin and unbelief. That's fine, until it happens to you. And it will. Your body is dieing even as you read this, so is mine and every other living human person. Remember Satan in the desert with Christ? What did he do? He quoted scripture out of context. Not to mention what he (Satan) promised (but I will). Mat 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; Mat 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. But we are not to approach scripture in this way. Looking to obtain stuff. we are to seek the truth and apply it accordingly. So again, I'm not asking you to take my word or Brad's word for anything. Do the research for yourself. You have the internet, start with the Christian Research Institute CRI website. Do a search on the word of faith movement and the individual teachers. Take your own books, if you have any and line up their teachings with scripture. You'll find that you can't. Not when there considered with scripture in it's appropriate context the way God gave them. Hey, If I am wrong, if thousands of years of doctrine is wrong, no worries. You will discover the truth and keep your 100 fold. But if you are wrong, be prepared. You may have to give up some of the things of this world. But what's more imortant? The truth is. In Christs' love, Jeff PS. Mitch, take this challenge seriously, to research this and seek the truth. I had the very same challenge made to me. I was a hardcore Kenneth Copeland fan. The money and all. He was on the board of a church I used to attend. I watched him on TV every chance I got (almost daily), read his books, etc. Then the challenge. Then the research and personal study of God's word. Then the repentance. Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; |
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2 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | BradK | 167429 | ||
Hi Jeff, I appreciate the kind words. May I add that you have also spoken very wisely- especially from one coming out of this camp. Your words should be heeded and I too would encourage Mitch to take up the challenge. With no offense intended, we have a lady in our Adult Sunday school class with very similar views. (She's a big fan of Kenneth Copeland) the prior week she was very pointed in condeming the teaching of Orthodox Biblical doctrine and calling it "dangerous" and that it had even been "detrimental to her"?! What needs to be pointed out and emphasized is that no one- least not myself- is bashing, disparaging or otherwise "bad-mouthing" these men. It is their FALSE DOCTRINE that is in question and it is to that I speak. We need to be discerning to separate the man from the message. I think that's been done- if those listening will hear and set aside the "cult of the personality". Paul named names in 2 Tim. 3 and 4! I'm glad that the Lord opened your eyes to know the truth and your stand against this insidious type of "junk-food" theology! Popular is often far from being right! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167432 | ||
Do you have any scripture to back up your belief that its better to find otu what the internet says than what the Word says? Give me scripture and I'll discuss it, otherwise do us all a service and keep quiet. This is a Bible study forum, not a reserch club. | ||||||
4 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | BradK | 167436 | ||
Mitch, Listen, there is no need to get short with me! You're simply not listening, brother. I'm very familiar with the Forum guidelines:-) I've been on this Forum much longer than you and I expect to stay a while longer too! The burden of proof is on you to prove the validity of the WOF teaching! I'm done with this topic! Have a great day:-) BradK |
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5 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167452 | ||
I'm sorry if you think Im being short with you. I'm just saying either bring scripture to me, as my brother Mark did, or you won't get any response out of me. If you are done with the topic, thats fine. I apologize if I came across as being short, that was not my intention, simply I just meant to get my point across that I have been backing up what I preach, and have gotten litten scripture if any in return from you. God Bless, Mitch |
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