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1 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | mark d seyler | 149738 | ||
Hi Brad, As I understand Janae, she is speaking about the same thing that is shown in Act 4:31 "nd when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." Since at this occasion, Peter and John were present, and what happened, happened to all, and we know that Peter and John had already received the Holy Spirit when Jesus breathed on them (Receive ye the Holy Spirit), and they were baptized in the Spirit on Pentacost, this was a filling of the Spirit given at a specific time with a specific effect (and they spake the word of God with boldness.) In Corinthians A as Paul speaks of spiritual gifts, he meantions "gifts of healings", again, referring to specific times that a work of the Spirit is performed through the chosen, annointed, if you will, individual. It really takes no stretch for me to understand that this could be described as an annointing to perform a specific work. Certainly, Janae did not offer these referrences, and others as well, but frankly, I am somewhat surprised that I might be the only person on this forum who would recognize what she is describing. Personally, I don't see this forum as a way for each of us to demonstrate our "scriptural prowess" (aha! you didn't prove it well enough!!), but rather for us to gather together and love each other, and grow. Just like Apollos (sp?) who began to teach, and Aquilla and Priscilla taught him more fully, we should simply begin where the other person is, and teach them. But again, I have no difficulty seeing what Janae has described as scriptural. If you do not beleive that her experience is Biblical, whether she can explain it or not, then you may see this differently. Regarding your other point, "I'm also not in agreement that, 'What the Holy Spirit reveals is always confirmed in God's Word.' That seems to me like the tail wagging the dog, or the cart leading the horse." This was not regarding a statement made by me, but I will try to address it nonetheless. The Holy Spirit will never contradict Himself. What He wrote in the Word will agree with what He speaks to our hearts. Personally, I would not expect for the Holy Spirit to reveal something to us that He had not already put in His Word, so that we would be able to go to the printed page for confirmation of what otherwise would be unconfirmed subjective experience. I would then go on to say that what is not confirmed in God's Word might not be the Holy Spirit's revelation, however, I am not going to say that I know everything of what God may or may not say to you, or how He chooses to say it. He will certainly not contradict Himself. All in all, to me it seems axiomatic that the Holy Spirit's written and spoken revelations will always bear each other out. Does this help to clarify? Love in Christ, Mark |
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2 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | Morant61 | 149745 | ||
Greetings Mark! You closed your post with the following: "All in all, to me it seems axiomatic that the Holy Spirit's written and spoken revelations will always bear each other out." I would certainly agree, but this presumes that: a) The person is telling the truth about their experience. b) The person really had an experience with the Holy Spirit. c) The person correctly understood said experience. There may be others, but the above observations are excellent examples for why Scripture must take priority over any 'claimed' experience. :-) As always, I enjoy your posts my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | mark d seyler | 149747 | ||
Hi Tim, I've been waiting for you to join us :-) It certainly does presume all of these things, and that is why I so richly value the written Word above all. The Word is objective, while my inner experience is not. If I, or someone else, has some experience, I like to ask: Does it conform to the Word? Does it glory Jesus? Does it make me more like Jesus? Does it build up the body of Jesus? Yes answers to all of these go a long way towards my saying "Maybe, maybe, that was from the Lord." Thank you for bringing this out! :-) Love in Christ, Mark |
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4 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | Morant61 | 149750 | ||
Greetings Mark! I've been working a nine day stretch, so I have been reading daily, but avoiding getting too involved until I get some free time! ;-) p.s. - Well said! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | mark d seyler | 149752 | ||
Well, Tim, "graveyard" shift and nine days in a row! Get some rest my friend! :-) Love in Christ, mark |
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