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1 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | mark d seyler | 149723 | ||
Hi Brad, Does anyone else in this discussion agree with me that what Janae was describing is referred to in the Bible as these additional fillings of the Holy Spirit? Love in Christ, Mark |
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2 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | BradK | 149730 | ||
Hi Mark, I would allow that there may be an issue of semantics- to an extent. If we're defining these "annointings" as the command to be filled with the Spirit per Eph. 5:18 then we're maybe on the same wave length. However, I think it has been made clear that the "annointing" being referred to is something other than that. It hasn't (or can't) be defined scripturally! That's the challenge as I see it. Janae has not been able to provide a solid, biblical basis for her annointing. It is experience based. I'm also not in agreement that, "What the Holy Spirit reveals is always confirmed in God's Word." That seems to me like the tail wagging the dog, or the cart leading the horse. Again, we have no biblical basis to explain clearly what is meant. I hope this helps, BradK |
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3 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | mark d seyler | 149738 | ||
Hi Brad, As I understand Janae, she is speaking about the same thing that is shown in Act 4:31 "nd when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." Since at this occasion, Peter and John were present, and what happened, happened to all, and we know that Peter and John had already received the Holy Spirit when Jesus breathed on them (Receive ye the Holy Spirit), and they were baptized in the Spirit on Pentacost, this was a filling of the Spirit given at a specific time with a specific effect (and they spake the word of God with boldness.) In Corinthians A as Paul speaks of spiritual gifts, he meantions "gifts of healings", again, referring to specific times that a work of the Spirit is performed through the chosen, annointed, if you will, individual. It really takes no stretch for me to understand that this could be described as an annointing to perform a specific work. Certainly, Janae did not offer these referrences, and others as well, but frankly, I am somewhat surprised that I might be the only person on this forum who would recognize what she is describing. Personally, I don't see this forum as a way for each of us to demonstrate our "scriptural prowess" (aha! you didn't prove it well enough!!), but rather for us to gather together and love each other, and grow. Just like Apollos (sp?) who began to teach, and Aquilla and Priscilla taught him more fully, we should simply begin where the other person is, and teach them. But again, I have no difficulty seeing what Janae has described as scriptural. If you do not beleive that her experience is Biblical, whether she can explain it or not, then you may see this differently. Regarding your other point, "I'm also not in agreement that, 'What the Holy Spirit reveals is always confirmed in God's Word.' That seems to me like the tail wagging the dog, or the cart leading the horse." This was not regarding a statement made by me, but I will try to address it nonetheless. The Holy Spirit will never contradict Himself. What He wrote in the Word will agree with what He speaks to our hearts. Personally, I would not expect for the Holy Spirit to reveal something to us that He had not already put in His Word, so that we would be able to go to the printed page for confirmation of what otherwise would be unconfirmed subjective experience. I would then go on to say that what is not confirmed in God's Word might not be the Holy Spirit's revelation, however, I am not going to say that I know everything of what God may or may not say to you, or how He chooses to say it. He will certainly not contradict Himself. All in all, to me it seems axiomatic that the Holy Spirit's written and spoken revelations will always bear each other out. Does this help to clarify? Love in Christ, Mark |
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4 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | BradK | 149741 | ||
Hi Mark, Thanks again for your thoughts and input. I appreciate it. Since I can't speak for someone else, I don't know if Janaes' experience is that of Acts 4:31. That's what I'd like clarified:-) We're having a difficult time nailing down and defining what is meant. That is one of the challenges that I see in using terms or phrases that aren't found or based in scripture. I think you'd agree that we need to be careful in that regard. Now, with that said, I don't have a problem fellowshipping with her or anyone else who may differ in their approach to scripture- especially with regard to "annointings". I have many associates that are "in that camp". We may not see eye-to-eye on every matter, but we are one in Christ. This would be a matter of being tolerant in a non-essential matter:-) I would further agree with you that the SBF is not for merely demonstrating ones' prowess in regard to scriptural knowledge. Hopefully I've not come across that way as that is most certainly not my intent. We can all learn from one another. However, I don't feel it harsh or unreasonable to ask someone to back up what they're saying with scripture. I think that's a given. I have a difficult time with those who seem to place experience over the authority of scripture. That's all. As always, I do appreciate your thoughtfulness and the heart in which you communicate. BradK |
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5 | wjhat are the qualifications being | John 3:16 | mark d seyler | 149744 | ||
Hi Brad, Thank you for your response. I always enjoy discussing with you; I always feel that I have gained from it. I agree with you completely that having the same vocabulary can contribute greatly towards having a clear understanding, and it is best if we can use Biblical terms so we all know what each other is talking about. Again, I agree with you completely that we can love and fellowship whether or not we agree on every last detail, because we are one in Christ. With you and I, I recall times we have come at matters from rather different directions, to find that we agree in essence, if not on every last letter. I, for one, greatly appreciate this unity that we can have. When I mentioned the Acts 4:31 verse to Janae yesterday, she confirmed that this was what she was speaking of. I also place the Bible as supreme over everything else, be it experience, preaching, whatever. I do not see you as a person with something to prove, and I appreciate your input. I wish to alway exhort each of us to be gentle with each other, and to consider how we may be perceived by others, being as we represent Christ. Our love should be seen by all. God bless you, my brother! Love in Christ, Mark |
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