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1 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | stjones | 103929 | ||
Hi, Searcher; Shucks; we can't seem to agree on anything. Maundy Thursday and Good Friday services aren't in Scripture either, but God examines the heart and I don't think he minds. It's hardly "forcing Scripture" to note that the reason we (some of us, anyway) lift up Jesus' name before the world is because he was lifted up on the cross. In fact, there's no other reason to do so. And it's the reason we must do so. The Bible doesn't claim an exclusive on ordinary words. For example, the Bible attaches special significance to the words "I am". That doesn't mean that I can't use the same words to answer the question "Who here is glad Jesus didn't come back 20 years ago?" I am; I'd have been in deep weeds - or tares if we must be strictly Biblical in all of our speech. ;-) So I'll just keep on lifting up Jesus' name in song. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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2 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | Searcher56 | 103963 | ||
What about Good Thursday? | ||||||
3 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | khuck | 103967 | ||
Searcher, I am not familiar with that term, but if you give me a reference I will look at it. But just from my heart I would say that every Thursday is a Good Thursday, for each one is a day that God has made, therefore let us be glad and rejoice it it. With His Love, -Kathy |
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4 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | Searcher56 | 104018 | ||
Kathy ... It is because the Lord died on Thursday. Enter 81912 and the Scripture and links I posted ... also post 8230 is what Makarios posted ... whom I believe thought it was Friday. Study Scripture cited ... not the commentaries ... ask a rabbi. |
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5 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | khuck | 104028 | ||
Searcher, This post my seem harsh to you, but I must be frank and candid at this time. You give me few other choices. Your knowledge of the Bible is commendable on an academic level, but it is those who post with wisdom and Christian attributes that I respect most. So I'll pass; you go and question the Rabbi and garner more information on the letter of the word. I am sure that my Pastor is well versed in Jewish traditions and beliefs, if I have a need to know about Good Thursday. You have a lot of brash audacity where I am concerned. You label me anti-christ, you tell me that you are attempting to correct my thinking, and now you give me directives. Well my Dad is Paul Dunn. He has never used the name Searcher. You fail miserably at trying to prove to the Brothers and Sisters that I am on the wrong side of the cross, give it up cause you can never win. I can do all things through Christ Who strengthens me, and that includes tolerating your consistent put downs. You only do it because you are established on this forum by your longevity. You take great pride in perceiving yourself to be right in all things Biblical. I take pride in Christ and His abilty to save. Because you have a long history with this forum you have a following of those that will back you even when you are openly vicious, but not everyone is cowardly enough to call that which is wrong, right. About 6 or 7 post ago, I asked you with much love and patience for us to disagree agreeably and let peace be the acceptable truth of the day. I asked you to let there be peace between us. But you have persisted, all day. This shows me a lot about your character. Once I almost left this forum, just to avoid your incessant snubbings. You accuse me of being unhappy with your responses, it seems to me that you are the one who is unhappy with me, because I do not amen to everything that you post. And I am bold enough to post what I truly believe and you can not compell me to do otherwise. What scripture do you believe I should study? Is there going to be another deiviously mean spirited quiz? You ask me,"Kathy, What about Good Thursday?" As you are well aware most of us here are Christians, since we are not Jews we acknowledge Good Friday. Besides that you never acknowledged that my answer even though not the one you sought, was still indeed correct. Your question had nothing to do whatsoever with anything in the thread. Are you testing my knowledge? Are you hoping to beat me down before the brethren? You are not making me look bad at all. You are exposing something about yourself, with this constant thing you have with my posting here. Why do you harass me so much? Why do you always insinuate that I do not study scripture. Is it because there are I times when I reference commentary, articles and other resources such as translations. You know no truth about me and you desire not to, you are trying to prove your own unfounded assumptions. More often than not I reference the word of God. You may not like what I believe to be true and you may really believe me to be an anti-christ. I have put out the olive branch several times to you, and I have asked you more than a few times to let God's peace abide between us. Yet no matter what tactic you use I have the fortitude and courage to remain, until they kick me out. I hope whatever it is that you are looking for, be made clear. God is able to make you see what you refuse to see. Even I wish you no ill will and I know that God will bring all of this together for a good purpose on both our behalfs, because he loves us. Even a wretched sinner like me. -Kathy NOTE: Let me apologize to this forum for posting such a firm and candidly analytical response. Please have the benevolence and forbearance, to forgive me, I appeal to you sincerely. |
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6 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | Searcher56 | 104033 | ||
Kathy, the question "What about Good Thursday?" was not addressed to you. It was addressed to Indy. It is because he mentioned "Maundy Thursday and Good Friday" ... and while neither of these terms are in the Bible, I wanted to use another phrase that is not in the Bible ... though Thursday crucifixion is a minor view. I never labeled you as "anti-christ" ... all I did was to say if you attribute to God something that is not true (because Acts 20:7 is in the passive voice, it is of divine initiative) it is another gospel. I never have said you were not a Christian or on the wrong side of the cross. I think I said the opposite. You ask ... "What scripture do you believe I should study?" ... Is there going to be another deiviously mean spirited quiz?" and I asked you to read the posts cited for the Scripture. My point is we celebrate "Good Friday" because of tradition. While most "experts" believe it is the day He died, I have found it to be Thursday. My question was .... Is lifting His name related to John 12:32? ... My intent is get you and others to think why we use words and phrases that are not in the Bible, or if we are misinformed because someone else had misused Scripture. The latter is true in this case. When we reference commentary, articles and other resources ... it doesn't make it true. All needs to be checked out with Scripture. There have been views I have changed, after a careful study of Scripture. Searcher |
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7 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | khuck | 104058 | ||
Searcher, Even you use resources to assist you in your study of scripture. Even you seek greek translations to understand the meanings and context of what was said. And again for you to contend that because I use the same such resources from time to time means that I trust the resource and not the Word, only substantiates my contention that you do not know anything about me, you are not out to prove the word, you are out to prove someone to be wrong and YOU right. (how sad) Maybe you should go back and research your post to me specifically, on more than one occassion you have indeed deemed me against Christ and in subtle terms a false prophet. Which is a blatant abuse of your position, because if you say it, there are those who believe it. Your last sentence shows your intent: "There have been views I have changed, after a careful study of Scripture." Searcher I believe that prayer and the power of God's Spirit changes things. (we are just different and there is nothing wrong with that, let it be) I do not think that anyone studied the scripture in the thread any harder than I did. I searchered every version of scripture and also as you can see in my post the language context. And yes I did read commentary, and study notes. (that is pretty thorough) They served to bolster my own understanding and original belief. Even you said that I should consult an expert in Judiasm (a Rabbi). Truly God Gifted the experts, such as Matthew Henry, Coffman, Darby ...etc. And though I do not always see, their viewpoints, I respect and understand that God has given them a gift, Wisdom. Yet my modus operandi is to lean to God for understanding, not just in studying the Word, but in prayer... which to me is the pivital part of understanding. (having a little talk with God) I am not here to correct anyone's thinking, or to compel anyone to do as I say or do. That is the work of the Spirit. I can only state my belief and understanding. Some of my opinions have been expanded, and I have been enlightened and blessed with a higher understanding by the posts of many others on the forum, who are blessed with Wisdom and the gift of Teaching. You may feel that I have misused the scriptures on various occassions and that is truly your right. Yet I feel you misuse your seniority on this forum, by accusing me continuously of actions and intentions that are bold lies. And to what end, what purpose? You have not changed my views and that is not your job, one can only post his understanding of the scripture, and hopefully site comparable scriptures and the expert resources to show why they understand as they do. And if love and wisdom is imparted someone may be enlightened. If it is rejected, why have a hissy. To consistently try to compel someone to think as you'd like, is not the purpose of this forum. There is freedom in Christ, He never used the bully-pulpit. Now to Him that is able to keep us, let everything be to His glory. Peace to you, Kathy |
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8 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | Searcher56 | 104079 | ||
Kathy, One Question ............................ Do you use sources extra-Biblical sources without checking to see if what they say is so (Biblical)? Some things are tougher to check out ... one reason is because of tradition. But, when someone presents other view - I want to check it out. Searcher |
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9 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | khuck | 104087 | ||
No Searcher, I do not use sources, extra-Biblical sources without checking to see if what they say is Biblically sound? Such behavior would be wreckless and callous on my part. That is why I take such offense at such a notion. (I have no idea where you ever came to such an assumption) I usually start by pondering the question posed, then (if no scripture is used) I will first search the scripture, to see what the word says on the topic, and test it against my own beliefs. Sometimes the Word will prove my understanding to be totally erroneous, and other times, confirmed. If the query, is in opposition to my understanding, I will not only re-read,and reconsider the scripture, and those that are comparably linked and possibly referenced, I will oftentimes check the history to ascertain what may have been happening at that time concerning the verse. I will reference study material (including the expounders commentaries) to increase my understanding. If the poser of the question persistenly insist that my understanding is in fact flawed, that is when I research the linking scriptures further as well as pull out most of my resources, not so much to prove that I am in fact correct, but to be assured that I am really understanding what is being said. And more often than not, I pray for God's guidance in how to approach the subject at hand. I am not a traditionalist or a very religious person by most standards. Yet I do not discount some of the value in these modes of Christianity. I can only assure you that I love the word and the scriptures to me is a greatest story of Love. As I said before I have not come to discount your view, but only to add mine to the conversation. To you in His Love, -Kathy |
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10 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | Searcher56 | 104103 | ||
Kathy ... I came up with the idea that you don't check the Bible based on your comments about since it is passive it is of divine initative (Acts 20:7). However, I do believe you check the Bible, as the Beareans did (Acts 17:11), so that one surprised me. Searcher | ||||||
11 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | khuck | 104108 | ||
Searcher, Again I can only apologize for the confusion and chaos that the particular post served up. My point would have been better made, using the 2nd Chapter of Acts "all of it." But I did not write the article (which is no excuse since I posted an excerpt from it), my true objective was to simply highlight within it why I worshipped on sunday and not saturday. (Although we do have a intercessory prayer service on Saturdays). Our congregation does have what we call weekend services though, since many have to work on sundays or have other obligations. Let us magnify the Lord together! To you in the Love of Christ, -Kathy |
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12 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | Searcher56 | 104129 | ||
My parents were told to gather together on Friday or not at all when they were in Saudi Arabia. | ||||||
13 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | khuck | 104146 | ||
Searcher, Was that for any particular reason that they were allotted this day only to fellowship? |
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14 | Kathy, Is "Lifting His name" Biblical? | John 12:32 | Aixen7z4 | 104150 | ||
Saudi Arabia. Muslim. Closed. | ||||||