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1 | Please explain! | Matt 24:1 | Taleb | 78402 | ||
First of all Mommaphs, one must understand what Scripture mentions about the “sun, moon and stars”. Jesus’ disciples UNDERSTOOD what Jesus was stating because they understood HOW Scripture continually uses that kind of terminology. Canceling Psalms 148 was a tongue-in-cheek way of saying, contrary to some erroneous doctrines about the end of the world that states the physical destruction of the world, won’t happen. Genesis 37:5-11 is ONLY ONE OF MANY such “mentionings”. Immediately after (no pun intended) Joseph described his dream, Jacob CORRECTLY UNDERSTOOD what the terminology meant – he said, “Are all of us, then, myself, (sun) your mother (moon) and your brothers (stars) to come and bow to the ground before you?” Don't forget. The twelve sons (stars) represented ALL 12 tribes of Israel. Joseph was a "type of Christ". What Jesus told the disciples they accepted it, as all the others through out the Old Testament. The sun, moon and stars, Jesus rerferred to, represented the entirety of Judea and it’s way of life. It is also what Hebrews 12:26-27 mentioned, before the destruction of everything in 70 A.D. that the powers of heaven will be shaken. Why were the “heavens” to be shaken? To REMOVE those things, the things mentioned in the previous chapters of Hebrews, things that men created - e.g. temple, priests, sacrifices, etc. (not literal sun, stars, moon). Why? So those things that are Not Created with hands may remain. What things? Gospel, grace, etc. That's when IT happened, as Jesus said it would. I apologize this is sooooooooo short, when there is sooooooooooooo much that can, and needs to be stated. Respectfully, Taleb |
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2 | Please explain! | Matt 24:1 | Searcher56 | 78405 | ||
Taleb, Please read my post 78369 ... You figurative reasoning is without merit. What does the Bible say will happen (Mat 5:18, 24:35; 2Pe 3:10; Rev 21:1)? Searcher |
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3 | Please explain! | Matt 24:1 | Taleb | 78459 | ||
Searcher, thank you for your patience in regards to my slow reply. With my schedule, it is sometimes nigh unto impossible to do a worthwhile reply. I work at a huge, and I mean HUGE, church, so you can well imagine what my schedule is like. :) First off, the other post you wrote in response to what I said about wars and rumors of wars etc. Sorry, Searcher, but your history books are not accurate if they called those wars and rumors mere uprisings. If you need more "proof", let me know. Anyway, my point remains the same. I realize exactly where you are coming from, Searcher, because I have walked down your same path. Interesting that you picked the verses you did. When I was on the other side of this debate, years ago, I used those verses and many others. They ALL helped to explain to me what you have yet to see. Please forgive me for failing to preface this whole debate with some apparent necessary insight. Perhaps you, as so many others have (me included, at one time) wrongly concluded about WHAT Jesus was talking about in Matthew 24. Verse 3, in many Bibles reads something like this: They asked Jesus, “Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?” Does yours read something like that? Check out what the “end of the world” means and it WILL change your conclusion to match mine. :) Allow me to spell it out for you. “End” is Strong’s 4130 - "entire completion, that is, consummation (of a dispensation)an age, era". “World’ is Strong’s 165 - "... specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):—age ..." That said, can you now see where I am coming from? Just like those other verses you sent – it spells out the same truths about what TOOK place in THEIR lifetimes. You have to realize who Jesus was talking to AND HOW He directed His answers. Plainly, Jesus was talking to His disciples. Jesus said to them, (Verse 6) “And YOU ... (all of His disciples, NOT you and me)... shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.” THEY did hear of wars and rumors of wars. I appreciate your questions, Taleb |
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4 | Taleb, Do Mat 24:29 - Rev 6:12 differ? | Matt 24:1 | Searcher56 | 78465 | ||
Scripture ... Mat 24:29; Rev 6:12-13, 8:12 ... Taleb, are the events in Revelation different than in verse 29? |
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5 | Taleb, Do Mat 24:29 - Rev 6:12 differ? | Matt 24:1 | Taleb | 78529 | ||
Searcher, most of Revelations and Matthew and Mark and Luke and many other books talk about the exact same fulfilled events. They all quote other previously fulfilled events from history and the Old Testament. Get your Bible out and let’s check out the Scriptures that paint the “completed” picture that Jesus and His apostle John painted prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. They depict the same ones which transpired as Jesus stated. You need to note that Revelation is ESPECIALLY filled with symbolic language, something the Jew have easily understood for centuries. Many even “talk symbolically” today about everyday details and events. John frequently quotes from Isaiah. For example, Isaiah 34:4 says, “And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.” Rev. 6:12-14 “And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.” By the way, (you have to read the rest of the chapter AND some history) Isaiah’s prophecy WAS FULFILLED during the judgment of Bozrah and Idumea. And just like the verses in Isaiah 34 say WILL happen did – although the speech was symbolic, like so much of Scripture, IT HAPPENED. And don’t forget Haggi’s. In about 520 B.C., he predicted a “world” disaster. Hag 2:6-7, “For thus saith the LORD of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.” And THIS WAS fulfilled when the temple was rebuilt. A new “AGE” was born to prepare the world for another NEW AGE – the age which prepared the way for the Lord’s birth etc. By reading Amos, Josephus and other material, you will follow how it took place. Just as the disciples understood Matthew – so must we. I like you, Searcher. You’re a person desiring to “cover all the bases.” Respectfully, Taleb |
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6 | Taleb, Do Mat 24:29 - Rev 6:12 differ? | Matt 24:1 | Searcher56 | 78530 | ||
Therefore since John wrote Revelation, after 70 AD ... Mat 24:29; Rev 6:12-13, 8:12 are in the future. Well said. | ||||||
7 | Taleb, Do Mat 24:29 - Rev 6:12 differ? | Matt 24:1 | Taleb | 78539 | ||
Searcher, you need to ADD to your library. I'll for now just quote the handiest, "...as for the date of its writing, the most common OPINION is it was written in the reign of Domitian, about 95 A.D.; OTHERS, WITH SOME JUSTIFICATION, believe that parts of it were composed as early as Nero's time, shortly before 70 A.D. And a commentary says; “John received this Revelation under the reign of Vespasian.” This date also might place it before the final overthrow of the Jewish state; though Vespasian reigned to A.D. 79. The inscription to this book, in the Syrian version, first published by De Dieu, in 1627, and, afterwards in the London Polyglot, is the following: “The Revelation which God made to John the evangelist, in the island of Patmos, to which he was banished by Nero Caesar.” This places it before the year of our Lord 69, and consequently before the destruction of Jerusalem. Of this opinion are many eminent writers, and among them Hentenius, Harduin, Grotius, Lightfoot, Hammond, Sir Isaac Newton, Bishop Newton, Wetstein, and others. Seeing how, unless there are TWO separate ends of the "age" that Jesus warned His Disciples would HAPPEN in their time, then I stand with what the OTHERS, WITH SOME JUSTIFICATION, believe. Any other questions, I am willing, but you must be patient. I am not always "privileged to the time I spent here today." I apprectiate your "compliment" on my writing :) Yours too! If you need additional "sources" - that's what my library is for. Respectfully, Taleb |
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