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1 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | Grace and Truth | 53913 | ||
Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted! Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve apostles, who had the Spirit of God, yet lost his soul. This teaches us, that just because one starts out as a child of God's, doesn't mean you will end up that way. We must be faithful unto death. Rev 2:10 to receive a crown of life. Acts 5:1-11 Ananias and Sapphira another example died in sin. So we must be faithful unto death. |
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2 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | Hank | 53931 | ||
Your startling announcement that the doctrine of the eternal security of the believer is refuted is followed by two examples, one of Judas Iscariot and the other of Ananias and Sapphira. If that is all the "evidence" you can muster to prove your case, my friend, I'm afraid you are going to be hard pressed to convince a jury. You will be unable to find scriptural proof that Judas was ever a regenerate believer. Jesus himself called Judas a devil [John 6:70,71]. That doesn't sound much like Judas had "the Spirit of God" as you say, now does it? And the singular case of Ananias and Sapphira as related in Acts 5 falls short of proof that they were truly regenerate believers, and even if they were, stops far short of refuting the doctrine of the eternal security of the believer. We are told only of what happened to them, i.e., "they breathed their last." What happened to them after that is in the province of God, and not revealed to us. One can't base a viable doctrine on such flimsy "circumstantial evidence" as you have presented. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | Grace and Truth | 53934 | ||
That's not enough for you, here's Ezekiel 18:4-32. Rev 2:5,16,18-29, if you don't over come where will you end up? Chapters 3:3,5 if you don't over come. Vs 14-19 if you don't repent, you will perish. Heb 10:26-31,38-39 mainly vs 27-31 you can lose it all! |
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