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1 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | Grace and Truth | 53913 | ||
Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted! Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve apostles, who had the Spirit of God, yet lost his soul. This teaches us, that just because one starts out as a child of God's, doesn't mean you will end up that way. We must be faithful unto death. Rev 2:10 to receive a crown of life. Acts 5:1-11 Ananias and Sapphira another example died in sin. So we must be faithful unto death. |
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2 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | Reformer Joe | 53923 | ||
How was the thief saved? --Joe! |
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3 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | Grace and Truth | 53925 | ||
Luke 23:43 is understood by Matt 9:6 "But that ye may know that the Son of man (hath power on earth to forgive sins)"... Three points to notice about the thief! 1. He spoke to Jesus face to face. 2. Jesus was alive when he forgave the thief. 3. Heb 9:15-17 for us the law of new testament came into effect on the day of Pentecost. |
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4 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | Reformer Joe | 53933 | ||
So his sins were not punished according to divine justice? --Joe! |
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5 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | Grace and Truth | 53938 | ||
Are you refering to the thief on the cross? How could they be, Jesus forgave him. |
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6 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | Reformer Joe | 53974 | ||
Yes, I have been forgiven as well. All of God's people have been forgiven. However, you are saying that the thief on the cross was forgiven without any atonement being made for his acts of rebellion against an infinitely holy God. You are saying that God, who is perfectly just, whose eyes are too pure to look on evil (Habakkuk 1:13), simply shrugged his shoulders and said "Okay, you are forgiven; no sacrifice necessary." Wow, I wish Jesus had known how easy that would be! Then he would have NEVER had to come to earth and die for ANYONE. He could have just shown up and said, "Everyone's forgiven! I am going home!" How cruel of his Father to let him think that he would actually have to DIE and face God's infinite and holy wrath when it was completely unnecessary! Remission of sins without the shedding of blood! I am going to go clip Hebrews 9:22 out of my Bible right now! Little tip: Go read Romans 3:19-26. Although your eyes are blinded by Satan, you will see in the last verse how Christ' death was the grounds for our justification, so that God would be at the same time JUST and the JUSTIFIER of the one who has faith in Jesus. Leaving the sins of the thief unanswered for would not have been just, and it is thanks to Christ's sinless life and substitutionary death that EVERYONE who has ever been justified has been justified. Jesus died for the sins of Abraham and David and the thief on the cross and Peter and Paul and me. Any other scenario is (a) unbiblical and (b) ultimately makes Jesus' death an unnecessary one. --Joe! |
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7 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | Morant61 | 53989 | ||
Greetings Joe! I have asked the same sort of questions several times, yet without response. If God can forgive, without Christ dying on the cross, then why did Christ die on the cross? One cannot explain away the salvation of the thief on the cross by saying that he was under a different covenant, since Paul specifically says that no one was saved by the old covenant, but all are saved by faith in Christ! :-) Excellent points my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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8 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | McGracer | 54010 | ||
Hi Tim, Here's my two cents for what it's worth (probably two cents). BTW, this is not a correction to your post, just an expansion of it. The thief on the cross WAS under the Old Covenant for Hebrews makes it clear that the New Covenant did not go into effect UNTIL Christ shed His blood - Heb 9:17. HOWEVER, this is not a desparity because Heb 9:15 makes it clear that ALL the sins that were committed under the first covenant (Mosaic from Hebrews perspective) were paid for at Calvary. Heb 10:4 states that it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Therefore, all of the sins committed under the Law were "atoned for", covered, by animal blood, but it is God Himself who did the forgiving because He knew that Christ's sacrifice was already a done deal (slain from the foundations of the earth). Animal blood NEVER forgave anyone - it is God alone who forgives man and in OT times He forgave according to the faith that men had in Him. Animal blood merely pointed to the sacrifice of the Lamb of God who would take away the sins of the world. In conclusion, Heb 10:12 demonstrates that Christ's sacrifice took away ALL sins for ALL men for ALL time (even OT sins and even sins that we here in time have not committed yet). It is truly finished. There is no more sacrifice. "And their sins and there lawless deeds I will remember no more" - Heb 10:17 - not because we don't sin but because Christ's work is done! McGracer |
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9 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | Morant61 | 54011 | ||
Greetings McGracer! I couldn't agree more with what you said my friend! :-) Very well said! p.s. - Would you by any chance be Irish? I was curious as my family name (Moran) is an old Irish name! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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10 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | McGracer | 54015 | ||
Hi Tim, Yes, according to the flesh I am Irish (mostly). But according to the Spirit, I am a new creation in Christ - 2 Cor 5:17. But I still have a wee bit of the blar'ney in me, doncha know? McGracer |
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11 | Are you refering to the thief ? | Matt 10:1 | Morant61 | 54016 | ||
Greetigns McGracer! I thought so! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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