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1 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | Hank | 53931 | ||
Your startling announcement that the doctrine of the eternal security of the believer is refuted is followed by two examples, one of Judas Iscariot and the other of Ananias and Sapphira. If that is all the "evidence" you can muster to prove your case, my friend, I'm afraid you are going to be hard pressed to convince a jury. You will be unable to find scriptural proof that Judas was ever a regenerate believer. Jesus himself called Judas a devil [John 6:70,71]. That doesn't sound much like Judas had "the Spirit of God" as you say, now does it? And the singular case of Ananias and Sapphira as related in Acts 5 falls short of proof that they were truly regenerate believers, and even if they were, stops far short of refuting the doctrine of the eternal security of the believer. We are told only of what happened to them, i.e., "they breathed their last." What happened to them after that is in the province of God, and not revealed to us. One can't base a viable doctrine on such flimsy "circumstantial evidence" as you have presented. --Hank | ||||||
2 | Once saved, aways saved doctrine refuted | Matt 10:1 | 2ndSamuel22 | 54241 | ||
Dear Hank, You have toched upon something people don't consider: did Judas, and Ananais and Sapphira, indeed go to hell? All it says is Judas hung himself, and Ananais and Sapphira were struck dead. One can assume they went to hell, but nowhere is it explicitly mentioned. Would God strike them down, if they were indeed heaven-bound? Yes. He does it every day. Now, consider the man in John ch.5, sitting by the pool of Bethesda. Jesus healed him, then found him later and said, "sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon thee." What is that worse thing? We don't know for sure, it doesn't say. And according to some here, if it doesn't say it, we can't assume it. God is my strength and power, and He makes my way perfect!! 2nd samuel 22 |
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