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1 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Norrie | 17423 | ||
I listened to Copeland since 1980 almost exclusively, ever since I got saved. Then I started branching out to listening to anybody affiliated w/him. I've been to Believers Conventions, experienced miracles, owned so many tapes that it was almost impossible to store them, was giving them to people all the time just so they'd get the Word. When I first heard that Copeland was wrong from someone I respected, it shocked me. Then it seemed that everywhere I turned was someone telling me he was wrong. I listened to him for 18 yrs! I practically taped every show he had on, got the Voice of Victory, was receiving the publications from Jerry, Jesse, Joyce, Creflo, Hagin...bought tapes from most of them. I even went to Creflo's church because Copeland and Roberts were going to be there, I fully expected a healing and it didn't happen, in fact I had a set back. I knew it wasn't lack of faith because I was ready. Then it was after this I started hearing about fallacy from them. I sure did NOT want to hear that, but when enough witnesses start telling you, you have to really start examining to find out the truth. Now I've quit all of them. I admit there was some good there, but I've read that the percentage w/apostates is 95 percent truth and 5 percent apostasy, that way you can swallow the apostacy easier, if it was blatant, you'd never believe it. I bet if I scrounged around, I could prob find the tape where it talks about God gave man dominion and Adam gave it to Satan when he sinned. Then God was locked out of the earth. He couldn't make a new man because now it belonged to Satan, Adam gave it to him and God's honorable, He won't go back on His Word. So He had to find a man to speak His Word, get His Word back in, that's why it took so long to get Jesus in. I used to preach this on other forums trying to explain things to unbelievers. I was also in constant contact w/these ministries, sending money, calling for prayer, they'd even send me free tapes when I had a particular problem, I never would have dreamed anything they said was wrong. My daughter was born after a blanket prayer at the '91 Anaheim Convention. Copeland said in 9 mos, I expect to get some baby announcements, before the year was up, I sent him one. It's amazing what had to go on in my life to force me to take a good, long look. But God finally got my attention. Just be openminded, maybe that's why you're here, to find out the truth. :) This site really needs to lift the ban on symbols, it is a big pain!!! |
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2 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17933 | ||
Norrie, it will hopefully relax to know that I don't take any man's word on any God issue. I spend time with God everyday and I use church, books, tapes, and even television to enhance my learning. I can see how there are people who take things out of context. For instance, the whole prosperity thing...I have learned that if it's about me, then its not about God. If I give expecting to receive, then I give for the wrong reasons. God is out of it. I don't give because God has give me anything back. I give because God has already given me everything. It has to be about God. I know it is easy to take something someone writes or says and hang on to that. But we all have to go to source. If you don't have a personal relationship with God, then any teaching can be taken out of context. Believe me when I say that I am open minded. I have learned to "test" everything I hear, and I know to go into any teaching prayerfully. I don't know why God led me to this sight, but I know He will make it known sooner or later. With love, Kelkat |
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