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1 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | Morant61 | 21985 | ||
Greetings Charis! The quote I was refering to was the first part of Prov. 23:7 (KJV) - "For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: ...." Frankly, I am stunned that now I am going to have to defend the fact that I study the Bible. Doctrine and theology are impractical, and a hobby? I really don't know how to respond to that my friend! So, I guess I won't! :-) But, if you are going to accuse me of assumption and conjecture, please point out in Scripture where I have done that! I am a little stunned at the responses I have been receiving from you on this thread. The whole point of the thread was can there be a middle ground between Calvinism and Arminianism. I simply gave my opinion that the core of both could not be reconciled. Since then, I have been told that I am arrogant, impractical, guilty of assumptions. I have never responded to, or been responded to, in this way in all my discussions whith those who believe in Calvinism. I haven't insulted you, called you unbiblical, or anything. I really don't have any explanation for any of this! Your Confused Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | charis | 21989 | ||
Dear Tim, Greetings in the name of Jesus! I did not say that all doctrine and all theology are impractical and a hobby. I said that theorizing who WILL be saved and who will NOT be saved is beyond our ability to know in a practical sense, therefore a hobby. ( a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation-Webster's) That is, unless you are a seminary professor! :-) I have asked several times what practical difference this topic makes. How does it change my walk, my service to Christ and His church? It seems that the answer to this question would clarify whether it is a hobby or not. Friend, there is a difference between making and arrogant statement and being arrogant. I do not accuse you of being an arrogant person. I say that the topic is impractical, and no one, as yet, has even tried to explain the practicality of knowing whether Christ died for the world or for the elect. It is assumption to think that we KNOW the mind of God completely on ANY topic. (I might add that ALL are guilty of this once in a while!) I can remember several posts that made similar statements on both sides, though I don't know if any were directed to you, personally. Asked why I think that there is reconciliation between these two camps, I have tried to answer that the division is moot, and that pursuit of Jesus would answer both satisfactorily. This reconciliation was spoken of as impossible, and I disagree. But in order to find this reconciliation, we might have to sacrifice some of the more 'intellectual' ways of thinking, i.e. think with the heart, not with the mind. After all, it is not the issue that is irreconcilable, but the people. :-) I would imagine that you feel insulted because I touch upon something that is dear to you. I honestly do not make you my target. I am targeting a bent, a preference. I might add that MY preference has been targeted many a time. Tim, you asked me to explain! Again and again! So I did. Nothing personal or antagonistic, but I guess too blunt. :-) I am new at discussing such lofty matters, and therefore not very polished. I will work on my presentation, and my manners :-( Sorry. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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3 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | Morant61 | 21990 | ||
Greetings Charis! Thanks for the response! I was beginning to worry that you were upset with me personally for some reason! I really am not insulted because of your position on Arminianism or Calvinism! The label is not what is dear to me. What upset me was the apparent implication that people who believe one way or the other are not as spiritual as those who accept both or don't accept either. What upset me was the apparent implication that theology is not practical. But, apparently, that is not what you meant! I'm glad that you are not upset with me! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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