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1 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | Lionstrong | 21576 | ||
I'm sorry Ed, you apparently don't know what the problem is. You wrote, "You say that C and A believers can't both be wrong. Why not?" Reformed believers teach that the plan of God includes EVERYTHING that happens. My Arminian brethren say no, it's only some things. Ed, where is the middle ground between all and some? And if they are both wrong, then NOTHING happens according to God's plan. ....... You write, "Couldn't either be to far to the left and the other to far to right and the truth lies in the middle?" No, Ed. There's nothing to the right of "all," and the only thing to the left of "some" is "none." And there is no middle between "all" and "some." If there is, tell me. What is in the middle of God has planned all and God has planned only some? Don't throw away reason in order to reconcile our two camps! Truth is more important than brotherly harmony. When Jesus comes, you'll see who was true to God's Word, but in the meantime, maintain and continue to find biblical support for your convictions. ......... We both agree that the Word of God is truth. By the grace of God we can be thankful that we have that! But in the sovereign plan of God he has ordained that intellectual weaknesses caused by sin to remain. This is why there are differences of opinion among true believers in Christ. But I think that it is to the glory of God that by the power of the Spirit of Jesus that we continue to love each other even as we explore each others' differences and by his grace begin to become one mind on more and more things before Christ comes. .. Peace, Lionstrong | ||||||
2 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | userdoe220 | 21714 | ||
Calvanism equals all things Arminianism equals some things Calvminian equals most things. The middle between "all" and "some" is "most" :-) Just trying to be funny. |
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3 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | Morant61 | 21722 | ||
Greetings Schwartzkm! Pretty good! :-) The following comments are meant for everyone discusing this thread: I have been thinking about the whole issue of middle ground. The way I see it (and I could be wrong), there are only four logical positions concerning salvation. 1) No one is saved, everyone is lost! 2) Some are saved, some are lost - by God's decree! 3) Some are saved, some are lost - by man's choice! (I really don't like this phrase, but I use it for the sake of contrast with number 2.) 4) Everyone is saved, no one is lost! Options 1 and 4 are clearly not Biblical. Options 2 and 3 are basically Calvinism and Arminianism. The real difference between these two options is simple. Option 2 says that God did not want to save everybody, so He only saved some! Option 3 says that God wanted to save everyone, but not everyone accepted the gift! If this is true, I have to agree with Lionstrong and Joe that there really can't be a middle ground. One is right and one is wrong! We may disagree on the forum as to which one is which, but can there really be any middle position? If there is, I would love to hear what it is? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | userdoe220 | 21731 | ||
I would agree with you on this issue. that was my poor attempt at humor. I know Geisler has attempted to strike a "middle" ground position in this debate in his book, Chosen but Free. I know Lionstrong did not like the book and I felt Geisler was attempting to merge Calvanism with Armenian but nevertheless at least he recognizes the difficulties present in this debate. |
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5 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | Morant61 | 21733 | ||
Greetings Schwartzkm! I never said it was poor attempt! :-) I thought it was kind a funny! I wasn't address you in particular. I just keep hearing this phrase "middle ground", but I've never yet seen anything that could be such a thing. I'm not familiar with Geisler's book, but i plan on ordering it. My "middle ground" is based on Robert Shank's book "Elect in the Son." Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | userdoe220 | 21736 | ||
I will check the book out. I have promised Lionstrong that I would read White's book and I might as well add another one to the list. |
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