Results 1 - 3 of 3
|
|
|||||
Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Ordered by Verse | ||||||
Results | Verse | Author | ID# | |||
1 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | EdB | 21569 | ||
Lionstrong I did not say they were both false. I said the the idea developed from them must have some flaw. You say that C and A believers can't both be wrong. Why not? Couldn't either be to far to the left and the other to far to right and the truth lies in the middle? Again scripture does not contradict itself. Only our interpretation does. I personally think the C's have some good points and the A's have some good points and if either would quit trying to prove the other wrong and see what they can agree on they would resolve the problem. EdB |
||||||
2 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | Lionstrong | 21576 | ||
I'm sorry Ed, you apparently don't know what the problem is. You wrote, "You say that C and A believers can't both be wrong. Why not?" Reformed believers teach that the plan of God includes EVERYTHING that happens. My Arminian brethren say no, it's only some things. Ed, where is the middle ground between all and some? And if they are both wrong, then NOTHING happens according to God's plan. ....... You write, "Couldn't either be to far to the left and the other to far to right and the truth lies in the middle?" No, Ed. There's nothing to the right of "all," and the only thing to the left of "some" is "none." And there is no middle between "all" and "some." If there is, tell me. What is in the middle of God has planned all and God has planned only some? Don't throw away reason in order to reconcile our two camps! Truth is more important than brotherly harmony. When Jesus comes, you'll see who was true to God's Word, but in the meantime, maintain and continue to find biblical support for your convictions. ......... We both agree that the Word of God is truth. By the grace of God we can be thankful that we have that! But in the sovereign plan of God he has ordained that intellectual weaknesses caused by sin to remain. This is why there are differences of opinion among true believers in Christ. But I think that it is to the glory of God that by the power of the Spirit of Jesus that we continue to love each other even as we explore each others' differences and by his grace begin to become one mind on more and more things before Christ comes. .. Peace, Lionstrong | ||||||
3 | Is there middle ground? | Romans | charis | 21616 | ||
Dear Lionstrong, Greetings in Jesus' name! To answer the original question, there is no middle ground. There is truth, and men have a tendency to stray from it, some to extremes. Friend, the Bible is truth, and Arminians and Calvinists are both straying from it by denying much of the Bible in order to 'prove' their bent. You speak of everything that happens as if we might be able to fathom it! Both Calvinist and Arminians can spew forth scads of Scripture to back their opinions, and spend a huge amount of effort to tell the other side why their Scripture doesn't mean what it says. Both deny the other as foolish, ignorant, or blasphemous. Both 'bend' the Word to meet their agenda, and strip away the simplicity of the Bible with long, complicated, convoluted arguments, and reams of 'proof.' And both are unbending, dogmatic and bigoted. In order to prove MY statement, I invite you to use search to look for hundreds of posts dealing with this issue. Then, if all were as 'cut and dry' as both sides claim, one side would 'win' and the other side would be 'un-Biblical' and 'out of God's will.' How easily we claim righteousness. I have found few 'Calvinists' that accept the 'extremist' position, and few 'Arminians' that accept their 'extremist' position. Then we have the 'Neo-', 'Modified-', 'Pseudo-' whatever groups. I find it very easy to accept that God is sovereign, AND allows, yea, desires His workmanship to choose good works in the Lord Jesus. The Bible is clear that our God is sovereign, AND has set before us two paths. Who are we to continually argue about the *amount* of sovereignty and choice, as if we would know it, anyway! Shout at the typhoon! (Oriental interpretation of Job :-)) And peace unto you, in Christ Jesus, charis |
||||||