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1 | Predestination: scriptures meaningless? | John | Pastor Glenn | 61275 | ||
JRdoc, You said:"If Christ dies for (1) "all sins of all men" then why are any lost? After-all is not "unbelief" a sin? And if He died for the sin of "unbelief" how could any be lost--but some are aren't they! " Unbelief is a CHOICE. By not believing in the name of the only begotten Son of God sinners choose to remain condemned: John 3:18"He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. God's plan of salvation by choice gives all men the same choice that Adam had: life or death This is why Jesus was able to say: John 3:14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15that whoever believes in Him should not perish but[2] have eternal life. They had the choice to either look upon the bronze snake or continue to die of the snake bites that they had recieved: Numbers 21 9 And Moses made a (1) bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived. Salvation by Choice: 1. Preaching (Always necessary) 2. Hearing (Those that are eventually saved may not respond at first.) 3. Believing (Our Choice) 4. ***Born Again*** a. Spiritual growth (now have a ear to hear deeper truths, more light given), b. Stagnation (remain baby), c. Back slide Salvation by Predestination God Chooses his Elect 1. Preaching (does not matter since God will bring the light through someone eventually.) 2. Hearing (they will respond the first time since they already have an ear to hear.) 3. Believing (Automatic since God has already chosen them.) 4. ***Born Again*** (Automatic since God has already chosen them.) a. Spiritual growth (now have a ear to hear deeper truths, more light given), b. Stagnation (not possible), c. Back slide (not possible) God Bless, Pastor Glenn |
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2 | Predestination: scriptures meaningless? | John | Reformer Joe | 61279 | ||
Just a bit of clearing up here. You wrote: "Salvation by Predestination God Chooses his Elect 1. Preaching (does not matter since God will bring the light through someone eventually.) 2. Hearing (they will respond the first time since they already have an ear to hear.) 3. Believing (Automatic since God has already chosen them.) 4. ***Born Again*** (Automatic since God has already chosen them.) a. Spiritual growth (now have a ear to hear deeper truths, more light given), b. Stagnation (not possible), c. Back slide (not possible) ." Actually, this is how it looks: 1. Foreknowledge and predestination (Romans 8:29) 2. Preaching (essential because God has determined only through the external call; God does not require ME to preach to do His work, but he will sovereignly bring the gospel to His elect -- Romans 10:14) 3. Hearing and ***Born Again*** (God's effectual grace working through the external preaching of the gospel) 4. Believing (Caused by God by changing our natures, but at the same time a desired decision on the part of the convert; believing is what he wants to do because God has changed his nature so that his desire is to embrace Christ -- Acts 13:48; Acts 16:14; Romans 8:6-8; 1 Corinthians 1:18,26-28; 2 Corinthians 4:3-6) a. Spiritual growth (sanctification) b. Stagnation (possible but not a life-long condition) c. Backslide (same as above) --Joe! |
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