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1 | I unerstand, but that's not my question | Matthew | Hank | 93331 | ||
Chusarcik: Reference 1 Peter 3:18-20 and Colossians 2:14,15. ..... A brief exegesis of these verses is as follows: Between Christ's death and resurrection His living spirit went to the demon spirits bound in the abyss and proclaimed that, in spite of His death, He had triumped over them. The "spirts in prison" refers to fallen angels (demons) who were permanently bound because of heinous wickedness. The phrase "disobedient...in the days of Noah" (1 Peter 3:20) refers to demon inhabitants of the abyss who have been there since the days of Noah, and who were sent there because they severely overstepped the bounds of God's tolerance with their wickedness, filling the world with their vile, anti-God venom so that even 120 years of Noah's preaching while the ark was being built could not convince any of the human race beyond the 8 people in Noah's family to believe in God. (See Gen. 6:1-8, 2 Peter 2:4,5, and Jude 6,7). Paul uses the phrase in Colossians 2:15, "having disarmed principalities and powers" -- this is another element of Christ's work on the cross, spelling the ultimate doom of Satan and his evil host of fallen angels. While His body was dead, His divine, living spirit actually went to the abode of demons and announced His triumph over sin, Satan, death, and hell. The description "made a public spectacle...triumphing over them" paints a picture like that of a victorious Roman general parading his enemies through the streets of Rome (cf. 2 Cor. 2:14). Christ won the victory of the demon forces on the cross. He did not fight it out with Satan in hell after His death, as some teach..... Some of the exegeses contained in this post have been extracted from the MacArthur Study Bible, to which credit is hereby gratefully acknowledged. --Hank | ||||||
2 | "Who ONCE were disobedient" is about? | Matthew | Searcher56 | 93496 | ||
Hank ... how do who deal with "spirits (now) in prison, who ONCE were disobedient" (1 Pet 3:19b-20a). Does that mean "the demon inhabitants of the abyss" are now obedient ... or how do you handle "ONCE"? Searcher | ||||||
3 | "Who ONCE were disobedient" is about? | Matthew | Hank | 93510 | ||
No, Searcher, there is no scriptural support that the demon inhabitants of the abyss are now obedient or that Christ gave them a second chance. "Once" simply means in a former time, and in the context of this passage, the former time was long ago. There is nothing in the passage that leads us to conclude that these demons are now obedient or have experienced a change of heart. They are bound because of their heinous wickedness. They were running riot inflicting the world with their vile, anti-God activity. God bound them permanently in the abyss until the day of their final sentencing. This gives us no grounds to assume that they are now obedient. --Hank | ||||||
4 | "Who ONCE were disobedient" is about? | Matthew | Searcher56 | 93531 | ||
Hank, Read what I wrote Makarios ... the "once" ... pote (Strong's 4218) elsewhere leads me to believe there is a change. My challenge to you to see how pote is used elsewhere. Searcher | ||||||
5 | "Who ONCE were disobedient" is about? | Matthew | Hank | 93543 | ||
Searcher, dear brother and friend for many moons, have mercy on this old Ozark codger :-) I majored in English, not Greek, and couldn't endorse a check made out to me for a million dollars if I had to do it in Greek! And besides, I'm leaving quite soon for Cape Cod to see my little grand-daughter, so for some odd reason I'm just not in the right frame of mind to start tracking down the Greek word "pote" all over the New Testament. I will say this. The Gospel writers, all four of them, do a skip-jump from Jesus' death and burial to His resurrection without once addressing where or how Jesus spent His time in the interim. It seems reasonable to me that if this matter were on the same level of importance as Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, the Holy Spirit would have moved the inspired biographers to say something about it. This is not to say that it's unimportant. I believe that every word and every topic in Scripture is important. But that doesn't shock me out of my lethargy enough to go "pote" hunting right now :-) I'm not wishing to be uncooperative, Steve, but honestly I've posted all I know and understand about what scant amount of information Scripture provides about Christ during the period from His death to His resurrection. There really isn't a vast amount of material to comment upon unless we interpolate and speculate, and we don't want to do that! Why not call in our resident Greek expert, Tim Moran. I'll bet he has the answer on the tip of his tongue and can clear the matter up in a flash:-) "Pote" is Greek to me, but ask me what a plesiosaur is. I can tell you that. It's an English word! Take care, brother. --Hank | ||||||
6 | "Who ONCE were disobedient" is about? | Matthew | Searcher56 | 93563 | ||
Hank ... Be a grandpa ... I will be soon. My daughter is 35-36 weeks along. You are right ... we don't know what happened those 3 days and man has put in their stuff ... some of it is tradition. When I read this passage, I saw something different. Hopefully Tim can weigh in. |
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7 | "Who ONCE were disobedient" is about? | Matthew | Hank | 93569 | ||
Searcher -- re: "Be a grandpa" -- I assure you there's nothing else quite like it, as you'll soon discover. Grandpas have certain options that fathers don't have. When the grand-child is behaving, grandpa can have fun and enjoy the experience. And when the grand-child starts acting up (I hate to admit it, but they do), that's when grandpa can summon one of the parents to come and take care of their naughty kid. :-) You see, when you're the parent, you must take care of the child in good times and bad. But, ah, grandpa only takes care of them during the good times. That's what makes grand-kids so grand :-) But little children are so very wonderful. When I look into the loving, trusting eyes of a child, I see more clearly what Jesus meant when He said, "Permit little children to come unto Me, and forbid them not; for of such is the kingdom of God." (Luke 18:16) --Hank | ||||||
8 | "Who ONCE were disobedient" is about? | Matthew | Pastor Glenn | 93623 | ||
May God bless you Grandpa Hank! God said be fruitful and multiply. Well, it seems that grandchildren brings us to the real "multiplying" stage. Three children can produce 9 grandchildren real fast. My wife and I have 9 children, that means... Oh my! Pastor Glenn |
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9 | "Who ONCE were disobedient" is about? | Matthew | Hank | 93634 | ||
Pastor Glenn, greetings to you and thanks for your good wishes. You have 9 children ... so let's see ... when they start multiplying ... and if they multiply according to family tradition, I come up with 81 grand-children for you and your wife. For family reunions you're going to need a house roughly the size of a football field according to my calculations :-) But I'm sure you'll find a way to work things out, brother. Yours in Christ, --Hank | ||||||