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1 | Any scriptural support? | Matthew | Chusarcik | 93613 | ||
That's an interesting thought and one I have not heard anyone bring up. Does anyone have any scripture that could back up this idea? Chusarcik | ||||||
2 | Any scriptural support? | Matthew | Radioman2 | 93628 | ||
Jesus did not preach to the unsaved dead in hades and give them a second chance. For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, because they formerly did not obey, when God's patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 1 Peter 3:18-20 (ESV) NASB 1 Peter 3:19 in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, AMPLIFIED 1 Peter 3:19 In which He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 'This means that Christ preached by the Holy Spirit through Noah to unsaved people in O.T. times (compare 1 Peter 1:10-11), their spirits being now in prison. The theory that the Lord Jesus, after His crucifixion, preached to the unsaved dead in hades and gave them a second chance is not found in Scripture' (New Scofield Reference Bible, Oxford, 1967). 'Most likely this is a reference to the preincarnate Christ preaching through Noah to those who, because they rejected that message, are now spirits in prison" (Ryrie Study Bible, Moody Press, 1976, 1978). |
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3 | Any scriptural support? | Matthew | gracefull | 93630 | ||
Radioman2, No, this conclusion does not jive with the text... Look at this... 1 Peter 3:18-20 18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19 through whom(Holy Spirit) also HE WENT AND PREACHED to the spirits in prison 20 who disobeyed(PAST TENSE) long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 1. This text is addressing the death of Jesus as the righteous for the unrighteous. 2. These 'spirits' are in prison. "'Most likely this is a reference to the preincarnate Christ preaching through Noah to those who, because they rejected that message, are now spirits in prison" (Ryrie Study Bible, Moody Press, 1976, 1978)." No, as one who takes the scriptures literally (except where schripture clearly directs me to do otherwise) I believe these scriptures mean exactly what they say. God bless |
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4 | Any scriptural support? | Matthew | Radioman2 | 93659 | ||
Gracefull: Good to hear from you. I always appreciate your replies and input. Consider the following. Grace to you, Radioman2 ____________________ In it he went and preached to the spirits in prison,[33] 1 Peter 3:19 New English Translation [33 study note] 'And preached to the spirits in prison. The meaning of this preaching and the spirits to whom he preached are much debated. It is commonly understood to be: '(1) Christ's announcement of his victory over evil to the fallen angels who await judgment for their role in leading the Noahic generation into sin; this proclamation occurred sometime between Christ's death and ascension; or '(2) Christ's preaching of repentance through Noah to the unrighteous humans, now dead and confined in hell, who lived in the days of Noah. 'The latter (2) is preferred because of the temporal indications in v. 20a and the wider argument of the book. These verses encourage Christians to stand for righteousness and try to influence their contemporaries for the gospel in spite of the suffering that may come to them. All who identify with them and their Savior will be saved from the coming judgment, just as in Noah's day.' (www.netbible.com) |
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5 | Is this what you mean? | Matthew | Chusarcik | 93670 | ||
Radioan2, Thanks for laying out the two opinions. in opinion (2) were you referring to the faithful humans who died before Christ came? And that Christ went to them to announce His finished work on the cross so they could have eternal life? Chusarcik |
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6 | Is this what you mean? | Matthew | Radioman2 | 93683 | ||
Chusarcik: 'Opinion' (2) reads: "(2) Christ's preaching of repentance through Noah to the unrighteous humans, now dead and confined in hell, who lived in the days of Noah." Your question: "in opinion (2) were you referring to the faithful humans who died before Christ came?" My answer: No, I was not referring to "the FAITHFUL HUMANS who died before Christ came." What I quoted was referring to: "the unrighteous humans," (now dead and confined in hell, who lived in the days of Noah)". I was referring to UNRIGHTEOUS HUMANS, not the faithful humans. Your question: "And that Christ went to them to announce His finished work on the cross so they could have eternal life? " My answer: No, I was not saying that Christ went to them. What I quoted referred to "Christ's preaching of repentance THROUGH NOAH." 'This means that Christ preached [a] by the Holy Spirit [b] through Noah [c] to unsaved people [d] in O.T. times (compare 1 Peter 1:10-11), [e] their spirits being now in prison.' I say again: "The theory that the Lord Jesus, after His crucifixion, preached to the unsaved dead in hades and gave them a second chance is NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE' (New Scofield Reference Bible, Oxford, 1967). Grace to you, Radioman2 |
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7 | Is this what you mean? | Matthew | Chusarcik | 93780 | ||
I agree that no one gets a second chance after they die. The rest of your opinion, I'm not sure. Chusarcik | ||||||
8 | Is this what you mean? | Matthew | Makarios | 93782 | ||
Chusarcik, Radioman has supported his opinion with Scripture and with a very reputable source, that being, the New Scofield Bible. Therefore, if you dispute or don't agree with what he has provided, then perhaps you should re-examine your opinion, and offer a retort that is based upon Scripture, since his stance is supported by Scripture and at least one other source. Grace to you, Makarios |
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