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1 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 98698 | ||
Greetings Dachande! I'm not nearly as proficient in Hebrew as I am in Greek, but let me assure you my friend that you have been misled by the Mormons. The ending of 'elohim' does not make the word 'plural' as in gods. The ending is a matter of form, not function. There are, in Hebrew, certain words which have a 'dual' ending, but these words are not plural. Further, the doctrine of the Trinity does not teach that there are multiple gods. It teaches that there is only One God who exists eternally in three distinct Persons or Personalities. Scripture is very clear that there is no other god besides God the Father. Consider the following passages: Try these verses concerning whether there is more than one God: Deut. 4:35 - "You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other." 1 Kg. 18:60 - "so that all the peoples of the earth may know that the LORD is God and that there is no other." Is. 45:5 - "I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me," Is. 46:9 - "Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me." There are more, but these should suffice! So, since there is only one God according to God, how can anyone else become a god? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Dachande | 98721 | ||
The Hebrew was not so from Mormons, but a correction is note worthy and no problem to take, thank you... You're not seeing what I'm saying though... remember, this is not a debate over Mormon doctrine... so lets leave them alone and focus soley on the Bible... There are many passages that state there is only one God yes... but where in the Bible does it state this is the "Trinity" and the Godhead is no where explained as that of the "Trinity" in the Nicene Creed... that is the problem with the doctrine, yes, the creeds states it and gives a detailed definition, but the Bible does not teach the doctine of the Trinity, the creeds do... do you see my delema? I base my beliefs on the Bible, and the Trinity is not in the Bible, so how can it be upheld as concrete? Explain the Apostle Steven's vision then... And back to the origanal topic... Since when in the Bible was it taught that there are to be no more Apostles or Prophets, it doesn't... When doctrines are set out to be the absolute, how can they be when they are not in Bible? I know you will quote those same verses, but then I quote Acts 7:55-56... but if the Bible does not contradict itself, how can Christ stand on the right hand of the Father if they are the same... "Being" Or Christs prayer in John 17, where He prays that we may be one in Him, as He is one in the Father, that we all might be one with the Father... or John 20:17 where Christ ackowledges sebing subject to the Father, "...To my God, and your God." This argument can be faught til we're both blue in the face with supporting scripture for each side, which I'm not trying to do... So if we can do this, why should we not have Apostles and Prophets to settle these petty doctrinal issues? As far as I've read, God doesn't like confusion, which is why He had Prophets and Apostles Am I making any logical sense? Joe |
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3 | Apostles, Prophets? An Office for Today? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 98723 | ||
You wrote: "There are many passages that state there is only one God yes... but where in the Bible does it state this is the "Trinity" and the Godhead is no where explained as that of the "Trinity" in the Nicene Creed" The Trinity is the understanding and synthesis of separate teachings, all of which are found in Scripture: 1. There is one God. 2. The Father is considered to be God. 3. The Son, Jesus Christ, is considered to be God. 4. The Holy Spirit is referred to as "God." 5. The Father is not the Son, nor is He the Holy Spirit. 6. The Son and the Holy Spirit are distinct persons. 7. In many, many places in the New Testament the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are placed in conjunction with each other on equally authoritative footing (most notably in Christian baptism). If all of those statements are demonstrated in the Bible, what other formulation could the church have codified but the Trinity? Therefore, the Trinity is taught in Scripture; it just isn't taught in one single, isolated verse. Like other biblical doctrines, it requires a little work on the part of God's people to grasp it. --Joe! |
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