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1 | Confused | 1 Tim 2:12 | jcsav | 146496 | ||
EdB Let me ask you this. In Mat 7:22, When they prophesied in his name (Remember false prophets will have their place in hell). And when they cast out demons in his name (Jesus said demons do not cast out demons) This is not what Jesus Judged them on. he said, I never knew you. Was their work of God or of the Devil? |
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2 | Confused | 1 Tim 2:12 | EdB | 146504 | ||
Jcsav Does it matter? What matters was they weren't leading people to Christ but to their own deception. They never knew Christ. Personally I believe they were moving in familar spirits and making it appear they were casting out demons. But the Word says if one demon is cast out and the place is not filled with the Holy Spirit 7 more even worst will return. Matthew 12:43-45 (NKJV) 43 "When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. 44 Then he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation." Again your missing what I'm saying I'm saying wherever a man, a person claiming to be Christian moves in sign and wonders and uses the results to his glory, or teaches another Jesus people are being deceived. This generation has lost it ability to discern. They seek signs and wonders and are not seeking God, therefore they have made themselves ripe for deception. People are following after men not because they speak the truth but because they are doing signs and wonders. The people really don't care if they are preaching Jesus or not they just want more signs and wonders. Jcsav instead of trying to prove me wrong think about what I'm saying. EdB |
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3 | Confused | 1 Tim 2:12 | jcsav | 146518 | ||
EdB I was not trying to prove you wrong. I would apoligize if that was my intent, but it is not. What I wanted you to see is that it is possible to have signs and wonders plus preach the True Gospel and yet be lost yourself (1Cor 9:27). As I said, I agree with most of what you say. And remember that people are willfully blind. They are not deceived simply because there are deceivers. It is a rightous judgement, against them. This in no way means that you was wrong in what you said. I was simply trying to add to it. |
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4 | Confused | 1 Tim 2:12 | EdB | 146522 | ||
Jcsav I see where you’re going now and I agree to a point. I really question if one can move in the gifts of the Spirit if they are not saved. I understand your position on what Jesus said, chastening them for not knowing Him and not expressing His anger about them doing signs and wonders. However I think the assumption you make that the signs and wonders were authentic can not be established out of Jesus’ silence on the issue. It may have been Jesus simply didn’t mention that because the fact Jesus never knew them was a more serious offense. We see all through Revelations where Satan through the false prophet and the antichrist move in false signs and wonders also in Matthew 24:24 (NKJV) 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Notice what is says “if possible, even the elect.” I believe it is possible to deceive the elect because most don’t move in any form of discernment choosing simply to believe everything rather than question anything. We have eliminated critical thinking from the church and made Christianity pabulum for the masses never feeding them meat. EdB |
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5 | Confused | 1 Tim 2:12 | Searcher56 | 146526 | ||
Off tangent from the orginial ... The gifts of the Spirit if they are not saved ... is way off Women in Ministry, which started to thread. I started a new on - post 146525, with a typo. | ||||||
6 | Confused | 1 Tim 2:12 | EdB | 146531 | ||
Thanks for that refreshing splash of water, boy what fun guy you are. :-) EdB |
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