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1 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Hank | 121207 | ||
WalkingTalkingBible and Leonore: Acts 2:4. The reference says "other" tongues, not "unknown" tongues. Certainly it has nothing to do with ecstatic babblings such as you, WTB, ascribe to it. Please bear in mind that "tongues" in this context can just as accurately be translated "languages" -- that's the meaning. Here on this day of Pentecost a language barrier existed. Jews visiting from outside Judea very likely had lost fluency in Hebrew and Aramaic. If these Jews were to hear the gospel, a linguistic miracle was necessary to make communication possible. ...... Another point, WTB. You say that the speaking in tongues is the initial sign of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (Ghost to you, I suppose). Where does the Bible teach that? [You won't find it!] What the Bible DOES teach is this: The Holy Spirit is the supernatural and sovereign agent in regeneration (the new birth). The Holy Spirit baptizes ALL believers into the body of Christ. (1 Cor. 12:13). EVERY believer possesses the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit from the moment of salvation (Romans 8:9-11; Eph. 5:18; 1 John 2:20,27). Ecstatic babbling, which you call "speaking in tongues," is NOT a 'sign' of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The only 'sign' we have is the only 'sign' we need, namely, the assurance of the word of God that His Spirit indwells the life of the regenerated believer. Reliance on our own feelings, our "beautiful experiences," to light our pathway and give us comfort and assurance is most untrustworthy and most hazardous. The word of the living God should be our guide in all things spiritual, not our feelings, not our experienes. --Hank | ||||||
2 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | WalkingTalkingBible | 121280 | ||
Hank, I don't know what you have against me, but Acts 2:4 says that they spoke in tongues as the Spirit gave utterance. No, you won't find "initial sign" in the Bible when refering to tongues, but that's why it is important to be filled with the Holy Spirit (Ghost - same Being), He will teach you all things. Read in Acts, where others were being filled with the Holy Ghost, the believers didn't know the others had been filled with the Holy Ghost until they heard them speak in tongues. Have you ever felt the presence of God? What will you call it? It seems that if I use "experience" I'm wrong. The baptism of the Holy Ghost is when He baptizes all believers into the body of Christ. The indwelling, or filling, of the Holy Ghost is when the believer is empowered to be witnesses unto God, to live the Holy life God calls for, and to continue in the faith until Jesus returns. You judge me by saying that I rely on my own feelings. But since I know God and not of Him, I can truthfully say that His presence is beautiful. I have a personal relationship with Him and not a theological one. WalkingTalkingBible |
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3 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121281 | ||
Here... both of ye... (Hank and WTB) http://www.geocities.com/ian4christ41/altindex.html I agree with both of ye, partway. I don't know if I totally agree with this guy either, but he explains the origin of the "tongues have ceased" fallacy. Also, Hank, consider, carefully, the meaning of I Cor 14:40 |
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4 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Hank | 121287 | ||
Wierin: On your second day as a Forum user, on your fourth post you corrected my unbalanced post. I appreciate that. On your sixth post you gave me advice on how to conduct myself on the Forum. I appreciate that. What amazes me is how I managed to struggle through more than 4,500 posts over a span of more than three years before you came along and decided to become my editor and mentor. Thanks a heap. --Hank | ||||||
5 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121289 | ||
Hah, yes, we all get a little unbalanced now and then... However, it perhaps was improper of me to do so in a public forum. Is there no personal message system upon these boards? By the way, the advice I gave you on my sixth post was as much to me as to you. (look at my other posts!) |
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6 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Hank | 121291 | ||
Wierin: The state of my naivete is such that I just assumed that any piece of advice delivered to me with my name attached to it was intended for me. I had no idea -- you gave not the slightest clue -- that you meant to include yourself as a recipient of the advice. The next time you get an itch to pass advice on to me, please be patient and wait until I ask for it. --Hank | ||||||