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1 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | jcsav | 121286 | ||
You do not know the difference in the Promised Gift of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit as it moved in the Old Testment? Why do you think that the ampified Acts 2:16 states: "But (instead) this is (the beginning of) what was spoken through the prophet Joel:" If as you say the initial filling of the Holy Spirit was in Exodus 31:3, some thousands of years before. Then how can it be the beginning in Acts 2:16. | ||||||
2 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121290 | ||
Note that the Amplified has that in brackets. It isn't in the text. Rather, the promise of Joel was that what was once given out by measure in the OT would now be poured out upon all mankind. I have seen some (actually quite a few in the last few days) commentators and writers suggest that, like the fulfilment of Isaiah's prophecy which Jesus read in the Synagogue, the prophecy of Joel was only a partial fulfilment, a foretaste of the complete perfection. (Is. 61:1-2a, Luke 4:18-19) Christ quoted only the first line of the second verse, because, as many commentators believe, it was not yet time to fulfill the rest of that prophecy. Also note that there was a 400 year abscence of the Spirit between Malachi and John, and that both Christ and John were filled with the Spirit. |
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3 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | jcsav | 121308 | ||
Why do you give more weight to what commentors say than the Brackets in the Amplified? What about John 7:38-39. KJV. John was born with the Holy Spirit, true. But this is not the Born again exsperience that Jesus spoke of When he said you must be born of the water and the Spirit to see the Kingdom of God. John never had this. Jesus first had to be Glorified. | ||||||
4 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121316 | ||
First off, the brackets in the Amplified are basically a sort of in-text commentary, though an uncommonly good one. As for your other point, aye. This born of the Spirit is more than the OT examples, but the OT examples are shadows (Col. 2:17, Heb. 8:5, 10:1) of things to come, thus, while they may not be the thing, yet they are a kind of prophecy of that thing. Er.... but in conclusion, hoping that I have not again mangled my meaning with awkward words, yes, John did not have this new birth. However, the words, at least in English (I don't have the LXX with me, so I can't compare) are the same, "filled with the Spirit of God" However, this statement is qualified, by "in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all craftsmanship." (That being Ex 31:3) |
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5 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | jcsav | 121325 | ||
Ex 31:3, "And I have filled himwith the Spirit of God, in wisdom and ability, in understanding and intelligence, and in knowledge, and in all kinds of craftsmanship. (4) To devise skillful works, to work in gold , and in silver, and in bronze (5) And in all kinds of craftsmanship. (6) ..... I have given wisdom and ability to MAKE all that I have commanded you. This had to do with cutting stone and etc. Now read Acts 2:17-18, see the BIG difference. God in the Old Testment moved on individuals for a the task at hand. And sometimes he even toke his Spirit Back and placed it on someone else. In the Promised, he promised to never leave or forsake us. |
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6 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121389 | ||
I have tried to explain what I mean by them being similar despite the difference in a note on Ex 31:3. See msg. 121386 | ||||||