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1 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167462 | ||
You bring good points. Let me adress the issue of God being dependant upon our Faith. The Word says that God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentence. Well Paul says that we have to confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus in order to be saved. And the Word also says we must have faith in order to come to God ( Heb 11 ) If God was not dependent upon our belief in Him, then he could just make sure nobody went to Hell right? But he can't do that can he? He has to allow us to make the deicison to stand up in Faith and confess JEsus Christ is Lord. Thats what I'm saying when I say that God is dependent upon our Faith. And I never said God doesn't allow us to be tested, he allowed Job to be tested didn't he? I'm just saying, God doesn't do the testing, and he didn't send the test, and he wasn't the one who even brought up the idea of the test was he? Satan wanted to do it. And God allowed it, he had to, his laws are law brother. How many times in the Old Testament do we see God saying 'Fear Not' yet JOb was in great fear wasn't he? God had to allow the test, what reason, I'm not totally sure, but perhaps because Job feared, and God had said don't fear. As for sickness not being included, in Deu 28 the blessing and cursing are laid out, and the curse covers sickness. All they had to do was follow God, and listen to what he said, and keep his commands, and sickness would not come upon them. That extends to us today as well. So thats where scripture shows us that God does not send sickness and disease upon his children. Nowhere in scripture will you find that God sent sickness upon his children. Your passage from James is a wonderful one, and yes it does show that the prayer of faith will save the sick and the Lord will raise him up. This is a great passage because its God being able to extend himself as Jehova Rapha to those who aren't strong enough in their faith to believe for their own healing. There is nothing wronmg with going to the elders and letting them pray for you and anoint you. What I like about this Scripture is that it shows us that it is Gods will for EVERYONE to be healed. If it wasn't God's will for everyone to be healed, then why would we ever pray for them to be healed? We shoul dnever pray against the will of God. I think you might be a bit confused on something I"ve said, I've never meant to come across as saying that all sickness is because a person sinned. Good people have sickness too, because Satan brings it upon them. It all comes from him. Thats what I'm saying. It comes from him, and not from God. God Bless, Mitch |
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2 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mark d seyler | 167467 | ||
Hi Mitch, Ephesians 2 tells us that saving faith is a gift from God. So He is not dependant on our having saving faith, because He gives us saving faith. But I would like to stay focused on this topic of sickness if we could. Whether a person went to hell or not could be a matter of faith, but it could also be a matter of choice. This is an entirely different subject, maybe we could save it for next. So we agree then that suffering from whatever source God takes responsibility for in allowing it into our lives? (Speaking of the redeemed) Of the "blessings and cursings", does what you wrote mean that you do not acknowledge a fundamental difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, in that the Old is directed at the external, the phyisical, while the New is directed at the internal, the spiritual? Do you believe that we should be living in Israel, for instance? Now, regarding Job, you say that God "had to allow" Satan to have his way with Job. What is your specific Scriptural foundation for this claim? If God had to allow Satan access to Job, why would God have been allowed to hedge Job about in the first place? Why would not Satan have been able to march up to God previously, demanding his right to torment Job? This doesn't make sense to me. My point for the passage in James is this. If we are to be disease free, and can be if we have faith, then to have a disease would be sin. Being diseased would not be of faith, which is defined as sin. To have to go to the elders for prayer would be to acknowledge living in a sinfull condition, living outside of faith. Yet the passages reads in such a way that sin is not assumed, but recognizes that sin may or may not be present. So this person, who is unable to free themself of their disease by their faith, is not assumed by James to be in sin. So why should I assume that this person is in sin, even though that are not able to be healed by their own faith? Thank you for clarifying a few points for me. So let me ask you this: Do you believe that God allows suffering in our lives because suffering is part of our sanctification? Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167509 | ||
I think suffering comes upon us, simply because Satan hates us. I would have to assume Satan hates the entire human race. I think we could all agree with that. And in hating us, he worked a plan that caused Eve to be decieved and Adam to transgress. That brought death into this entire planet. Can we agree that sickness and disease were not in the Garden untill the fall of man? Or do you think God designed Adam in order to at times, give him cancer, or some other form of disease? As for God allowing suffering in our lives, I believe he has to allow it at times, obvisouly if I shoot myself, I'll get hurt wont I? But he did say in Isaiah that no weapon formed against me can prosper. So whats the deal with that? Is it a contradiction, or could it possibly be that if I am walking in the Word of God, and keeping his commands, that God will then be able to extend his protection over me? I believe that is the case, otherwise, God would be a respecter of persons to be doing all the wonderful things he is doing in my life, yet force someone else to live in poverty and have no home, must less a beautiful home as God has blessed with me. And we know from Scripture, God is no respecter of persons. As for the blessings and cursings, yes I believe we can live in the blessings from the Old Testament, I don't think we have to live in Israel, but hey, maybe we can stand on the Word and say that its our land too! YOu'd have to take that before God. But if we look at all those wonderful blessings in Deuteronomy, why would God not extend those to us? Hebrews says we have a better covenant, established upon better promises! Glory to God brother, better promises! If they had healing, we have that too, and better things that that. Our covenant would not be better than theirs, if they were able to repent and get back in line with God and have no sickness, but we are forced to live in it. So my view is basically this, God does not send sickness or disease upon his children, it happens, because the devil wants to hurt all of humanity. He wants to destroy it. The Word says he comes to kill steal and destroy. But God, has made a way of escape for those who will call upon him. Because the Word says "Whosoever will call upon the name of the Lord shall be healed! ( delivered , saved ) Glory to God Brother, that sounds good to me, doesn't it you? Mitch |
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4 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | Morant61 | 167513 | ||
Greetings Mitch! So, do you believe that a Christians will never die? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167522 | ||
I believe to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord ( 2 Cor 5:8 ) I am a Spirit, i have a soul, and I live in a body. Someday I will leave this body. I don't call that death, I call that a homecoming :) |
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6 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | Morant61 | 167555 | ||
Greetings Mitch! The question isn't as much what you call it as what Scripture calls it! :-) John 11:25 - Jesus said to her, ‘‘I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies. Rom. 14:7 - " For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord." 1 Cor. 15:22 - "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive." 1 Cor. 15:36 - "How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else." Phil. 1:21 - "For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain." These are just a few quick references that speak of believers dying. Do you dispute that Christians die? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | What is preaching Christ? | John 7:17 | mitchm0521 | 167565 | ||
We'll close this part up here Brother, I responded about death in that other thread we have open up a bit. It gets to confusing having so many at once :) But in short, no, Christians die just like other people. Some Christians die from sickness, that doesn't mean we all have to does it? I'm simply saying, death is not sickness. There is a time that if Jesus tarries, I will leave this earthly body, I will as you call it 'die' but it wont be from any form of sickness or disease, I'll be an old old man, and age wont be a factor in my leaving this planet. Mitch |
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