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1 | How does John 3:13 fit with Genesis 5:24 | John 3:13 | RoaringLamb | 111286 | ||
It's disheartening that you separate me from you and others in this forum, as though my being wrong on this issue (if that's the case) makes me a non-believer. Referring to yourselves as "a different breed of cat" to whom I must "prove any and everything...with Scripture" suggests that I disregard Scripture! Is this the spirit by which Christ's disciples are to discuss their disagreements? Paul warned against rivalry and contention among Christ's followers (ICor. 1:12, 3:4; Gal. 5:20). In Galatians the RSV calls it "party spirit." It's a "we-verusus-they" attitude among believers. Sure, I could be a NON-believer (or worse, antichrist) - infiltrating this site as an enemy trying to subvert it's mission. But you have no indication that is the case. After all, our understanding or MIS-understanding of this particular issue does not affect our salvation, does it? It is not the criterion by which we determined Christians. What - according to Scripture - is the "litmus test" of discipleship? For lack of space - and because I'm confident you already know - I'll leave it as a rhetorical question, for now. Also, I'd like to get back to the issue at hand as soon as possible. However, I think it's vital to this discussion that we recognize the UN-Christian things we do to each other when we disagree and, more important, the Biblical prohibitions against them. I truly believe these tactics are precisely why certain debates have persisted among us for centuries. It is why we have different "schools of thought" and cluster ourselves accordingly. One reason this discussion has not progressed is a practice I find to be all too common: we place rhetorical constraints (RULES) upon others we don't follow ourselves - ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SEPARATING THE LITERAL FROM THE FIGURATIVE! If we come from one school of thought (or "ism") on a doctrine, we accept its assumptions regarding the figurative/literal aspect of a word or phrase whether the Scripture involved indicates such or not. We become quite arbitrary in requiring explicit indication of one or the other. Tim and I have reached an impasse over the use of the term "asleep" in various passages. All I've asked is a simple acknowledgement that the notion it is a poetic term referring ONLY to dead bodies IS NOT explicit in any of the cited passages and must be INTRODUCED INTO EACH PASSAGE FROM ELSEWHERE. To concede this does not automatically render his conclusions false - nor mine to be true, for that matter. Paul taught that we should "each esteem other better than" ourselves (Phillipians 2:3). In so doing, I believe we all want to be honest with ourselves and each other. We all have the "lowliness of mind" (same verse) to consider the possibility we are wrong on a given point. Thus, we would also - even if we "know" we are right - if nothing else, FOR THE SAKE OF A FELLOW BELIEVER - spend some time humbly before God, seeking his guidance for responses to one another. I find responses to my posts to be quite rapid, however. I pray that each of us will consider the possibility that we might be hasty with our answers, or that even though we have knowledge we may still learn something from the other. Or if the other has something to learn, we will seek to edify our brother rather than conquer him. |
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2 | How does John 3:13 fit with Genesis 5:24 | John 3:13 | CDBJ | 111302 | ||
Well friend, With regard to your post I will say one thing for sure, you sure practice what you preach. Your final statement in your recent post, “I find responses to my posts to be quite rapid, however. I pray that each of us will consider the possibility that we might be hasty with our answers, or that even though we have knowledge we may still learn something from the other. My last post, that you just answered, was on 1/03/04 your reply is only 1 month and 3 days later! I am sorry but this old man can’t carry a thought that long for a fair response. All I can give you is the following. 2 Tim. 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: If you don’t respond to this post any quicker then the last one I just might be experiencing what we were talking about! Have a nice month and loosen up a little and have some fun on the forum we don’t have any ax to grind I’m not the enemy! Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. One beggar trying to tell another beggar where he can find food, CDBJ |
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