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1 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Reformer Joe | 45885 | ||
Paul tells Timothy: "No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments." --1 Timothy 5:23 Timothy, who was in many ways Paul's successor, suffered from frequent ailments? How is that possible if he had been taught by Paul that Jesus came so that we would be physically healthy in this life? And why would Paul not just tell him to "claim his healing," rather than prescribing wine? Paul also mentions another illness: "But I thought it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, who is also your messenger and minister to my need; because he was longing for you all and was distressed because you had heard that he was sick. For indeed he was sick to the point of death, but God had mercy on him, and not on him only but also on me, so that I would not have sorrow upon sorrow." --Philippians 2:25-27 Now why would Epaphroditus have been sick to the point of death in Paul's presence if Paul knew and taught him that all physical sickness in this life had been taken care of at the Cross, and if Paul could have healed him? he does not rebuke Epaphroditus for his supposed "lack of faith," but rather commends him for his service to the Lord. I know you have not been one to let a little thing like the Bible get in the way of your pre-conceived notions, but I just wanted to point it out for the benefit of everyone else who lets Scripture shape their theology. --Joe! |
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2 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | heisthe1 | 46007 | ||
One more time What makes your doctrine a doctrine of demons - is the fact that it removes the blame from Satan and removes the blame from us - and places it squarely on God! Which is a lie! And then your doctrine twists scripture to support that lie. God is a GOOD God! And ONLY good - all the time! He is now and He always has been. And if ANYBODY tells me different - they are perpetuating a lie of the devil! I don't care HOW 'pretty' or 'religious' you make it sound or how you weave it into other teachings. Now, DON'T write me any nasty, venomous letters citing how many degrees you have, how many letters you have after you name and how many years you have been "in the way." And I'm sorry! I'm truly sorry - that after all the time, expense and expended energy that you still don't know any better! And yes, I know that I have just messed up some of your best sermons - but it's time that this doctrine was shown up for what it really is! A destructive lie! Suffering Doctrine! A little strong you say? A little sharp you say? Jesus called the religious leaders of his day - "vipers," "snakes in the grass," "sowers of stumbling blocks," "hypocrites," "fancy graves full of rotten bones." Why? Because THEY should have known better! Now you have been informed, reformer! |
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3 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Morant61 | 46021 | ||
Greetings Heisthe1! I don't say this just for your benefit my friend, but for all of us on the forum! Please, please, let us watch our words! I see so many spiteful and impatient responses to people on this forum and it saddens me. We can disagree without being hateful. Our points are not made, nor strengthened by volume or venom. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | heisthe1 | 46204 | ||
Tim Do you know what saddens me? Is when I respond to a post and there's ALWAY'S this group of four or five individuals who want to twist the LIVING WORD OF GOD! Time and time again it happens. You say for the benefit of all of us on the forum? I'm starting to believe that these individuals own this forum. However, Like I mentioned in one of my post, is that I'm truly sorry that they don't know any better. Didn't Jesus turn and say to Peter "get thee behind me Satan." Didn't Jesus love Peter? I wasn't being hateful, I was being truthful. I don't put no limits on OUR God. I believe that the devil comes to steal, kill and destroy. And that Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil. I give no glory to God when my body is sick or diseased. I stand firm on God's word because He has healed me, Praise God!!! Whatever happened to the "signs and wonders" following? Or "you shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover?" Thank you for your response, I really appreciate it. We serve an Awesome God, who is still in the business of Healing. Proverbs 11:25 |
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5 | Thorn in the flesh | Is 57:1 | Morant61 | 46244 | ||
Greetings Heisthe1! Thanks for your response my friend! What I'm hoping to see on this forum is speech 'seasoned with grace'. It is entirely possible to disagree with others without being disagreeable. Again, I'm not just addressing this to you my friend. I have seen so many 'short' and 'harsh' answers. I have seen so many angry responses. Something that always helps me to keep calm is to realize that God doesn't need my help to defend His truth. I think sometimes that we get too personally involved in our discussions and debates. When we do, we lash out at others out of hurt pride. I hope everyone on the forum will take a deep breath before responding and make sure that we put 'others first' (Phil. 2:3). Now, on to the issue of healing. I believe that God heals, but I do not believe that healing is guaranteed in the atonement. I haven't read all of your posts on this issue my friend, so if you don't mind, would you lay out your case for saying that God always heals? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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