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1 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | Dragonflyprincess | 197903 | ||
The Lord knows who are His b/c He is all knowing not selective. Yes I realize unbelievers and such will be punished; Why? B/c they chose to not believe and God knew they would not believe. I realize God is Just and Righteous, also merciful and full of Grace. How does the bible teach that God's Love is not universal or that it is exclusive? John 3:16 says clearly that God so loved the world, is that exclusive? I am not saying that everyone will go to heaven regardless, what I am saying is that He has stretched out His Love and Mercy to any that will recieve it. 1 Timothy 2:3-6; This is good and pleases God our Saviour who wants all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men- the testimony given in proper time. :now how do you explain that God's grace is limited when it says Christ gave himself as a ransom for all men? or How can you say God's love isn't universal when He wants all to come to a knowledge of the truth? Or when it says GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD?? I also wanted to apologize for my attitude in the last note that I wrote, this is a very emotional topic for me knowing that God's love and mercy is for any who will accept it, It bothers me that other people choose to believe that they are chosen and some have no hope b/c God just decides they will be punished no matter the heart. |
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2 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | Michael T. | 197972 | ||
Greetings, You said: “The Lord knows who are His because He is all-knowing; not selective.” My reply: You’re mistaken. One doesn’t have to read far in the Bible to discover that GOD is discriminatory and selective. And since He created the universe, He is perfectly entitled to act as He alone decides without any reference to His creatures. Obviously, the LORD God always acts righteously, but because He is the sovereign Owner and Ruler over all things, He decides and acts as He alone decides. Our part is to unconditionally submit ourselves to GOD’s royal will. Read Deuteronomy chapter 7 and Ephesians 1:3-11 to see examples of GOD’s sovereign and discriminatory choices. You said: “Yes, I realize unbelievers and such will be punished; Why? Because they chose to not believe and God knew they would not believe.” My reply: The Bible teaches that no one can come to Christ or have saving Faith in Christ or savingly repent of their sins unless GOD first grants them His grace to do so. Refer to Acts 13:48; Acts 18:27; Ephesians 2:8-10; John 15:5. Take particular note of Christ’s statements in Gospel of John 6:44 and 6:65 in which He declares “NO ONE can come to Me UNLESS the Father Who sent Me draw Him, and I will raise Him up at the last day.” Thus Christ declares that salvation is entirely by GOD’s sovereign grace. Human “free-will” has nothing to do with it. Salvation is by GOD’s grace throughout. As the prophet Jonah declared [Jonah 2:9] “Salvation is of the LORD!” You said: “I realize God is Just and Righteous, also merciful and full of Grace. How does the bible teach that God's Love is not universal or that it is exclusive? John 3:16 says clearly that God so loved the world, is that exclusive? My reply: Yes. Many people refer to John 3:16 who seem to have never realised what that verse actually says. John 3:16 in effect divides the entire human race into two groups: (a) those who believe on the Only-begotten Son; i.e. Christ, and who are thus granted eternal life; i.e. salvation, and (b) all the remainder who perish in their unbelief and sin. Since each individual verse of Scripture is not in isolation but is part of the particular book of the canon of Scripture in which it occurs, and is therefore also is an integral part of the entire Scriptures, we must therefore also consider John 3:16 in the context of the Gospel of John and then in the context of the entire Scriptures. When we do so, we discover the great truths of Election and Pre-destination unto salvation [Ephesians 1:3-11; 2 Timothy 1:9; John 10:26; 2 Thessalonians 2:13; Romans 8:28-30, etc., which state that GOD has from before Creation determined the practical extent to which salvation will apply, and that in every aspect and phase of salvation by grace, it is GOD [not Man] “Who works all things according to the counsel of His own will” [Ephesians 1:11b]. You said: “I am not saying that everyone will go to heaven regardless, what I am saying is that He has stretched out His Love and Mercy to any that will receive it. “ My reply: You’re mistaken. Christ Himself says in Gospel of John 6:37 that all who the Father gives to Christ WILL come; i.e. (a) GOD’s grace in salvation is irresistible, and (b) the operative choice of who comes to Christ is not of Man but of GOD. (c) So-called human “free-will” is not in view because (d) salvation is always only by GOD’s sovereign grace. Thus, GOD’s reserves His love and mercy in salvation to all whom He has chosen; i.e. elected and predestinated to be saved in Christ, and to no more than these. Christ is t5he Saviour of GOD’s elect people and of no others. To be continued in Part 2 … |
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