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1 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | rachellynn | 197397 | ||
in NIV: Whatever exists has already been named, and what man is has been known; no man can contend with one who is stronger than he. in NLT: Everything has already been decided. It was known long ago what each person would be. So there’s no use arguing with God about your destiny. does this mean that God controls everything? Does he know what is going to happen and let it fall into place that way? Do we have any say in our own destiny? Can we change the future? what does this verse even tell us about the character of God? please do not answer if you are unsure. |
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2 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | Dragonflyprincess | 197423 | ||
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17: For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world but to save the world through him. Samantha432; What I want you to hear from this is that God loves you, has sacrificed His own son to die a horrific death to pay for your sins and mine, if I was the only one on this earth that sinned He would have come to save just me. Because He loves me that much. And He loves you that much, He loves you enough to die, to bleed, to put that burn in your heart to know him. All you need to do is believe that He loves you, and died for you, and pray to him for forgiveness and confess that you are a sinner and need for him to come into your heart and be your lord and savior. | ||||||
3 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | Mamre | 197530 | ||
(Quote) 'What I want you to hear from this is that God loves you, has sacrificed His own son to die a horrific death to pay for your sins and mine, if I was the only one on this earth that sinned He would have come to save just me. Because He loves me that much. And He loves you that much, He loves you enough to die, to bleed, to put that burn in your heart to know him. All you need to do is believe that He loves you, and died for you, and pray to him for forgiveness and confess that you are a sinner and need for him to come into your heart and be your lord and savior.' This statement is one that posits that while Jesus died for every soul that ever lived, it has not achieved that aim, and has largely failed. The question it begs (apart from its incitement to humanism by making the atonement's 'potential' only realised by the action of an unregenerate soul) is whether the atonement IS universal, or, as the Reformers taught (as well as Jesus Paul and Peter!) the Atonement IS Limited as to persons, namely the Called. (Acts 2:39) |
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4 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | Michael T. | 197538 | ||
Since the Scriptures confirm (refer Ephesians 1:3-11 and Romans 8:29-30) that Election and Pre-destination to salvation are Divinely-accomplished Facts which were completed by God the Father from before the creation of the universe, this itself proves that Christ's atonement was always intended to be limited; i.e. not universal in its practical extent. Election as such is discriminatory in principle; i.e. an *election* inevitably implies an *exclusion from election.* Therefore, the Biblical facts of election and pre-destination to salvation inevitably implies that there will be an exclusion from the elective choice, which in this context is an exclusion from salvation of the non-elect; i.e. the Reprobate. Election to salvation and its inevitable corollary of Reprobation are both implied in John 3:16. John 3:16 in effect divides the entire human race into two groups; (a) those are given God's gift of saving faith [Romans 12:3; Titus 1:1; 2 Peter 1:1; Acts 13:48; John 10:26; Acts 18:27, etc.] and who, impelled by God’s sovereign grace, believe on and trust in Christ the only-begotten Son of God and who are then given everlasting life, and (b) all the remainder; i.e. all unbelievers, a.k.a. the Reprobate or non-elect, in respect of whom it was always the will of GOD that they should be excluded from salvation, and who all inevitably perish in their sin and unbelief [Revelation 20:15; Matthew 25:41; Revelation 21:8]. The wide-spread but sadly mistaken superstition that salvation depends upon the decision of unregenerate and therefore spiritually-dead and spiritually-blind people, has no basis in the Scriptures. Instead, Christ and His Apostles repeatedly teach and emphasise in the Scriptures that the sovereignty of God – Who works all things according to the counsel of His own will (refer Ephesians 1:11b) - always omnipotently prevails throughout the entire salvation process, from before Creation to ultimate glory. |
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5 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | Dragonflyprincess | 197542 | ||
It's interesting that you are so quick to argue this topic are you trying to convince me? Or yourself?? How do you convince someone they are elected, "Oh hey by the way God chose you but maybe not your mother, maybe not your daughter, But he is a loving God. | ||||||
6 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | Michael T. | 197828 | ||
Greetings, You said: ”It's interesting that you are so quick to argue this topic. Are you trying to convince me? Or yourself??“ My reply: I'm not arguing. Instead, I'm pointing out the Biblical truths of this topic of Election and Pre-destination. Nor do I need convincing of the truths of the Scriptures because I'm totally assured of the truth and accuracy and reliability of all the Scriptures. You said: “How do you convince someone they are elected, "Oh hey by the way God chose you but maybe not your mother, maybe not your daughter,” My reply: But nowhere in the Scriptures are we ever commanded to “convince people that they are elected.” Instead, Christ’s requires His disciples to go into the entire world and proclaim the Gospel of Christ. Please note the difference. Furthermore, the Apostle Paul says in 2 Timothy that “the Lord knows them who are His.” Therefore the issue as to whether any particular person is among God’s elect people or not is a matter which the LORD God has reserved to Himself, and we should not intrude on His prerogative. You said: “But he is a loving God.” The LORD God is also Just and Righteous and Holy and cannot abide sin in any of its manifold varieties, and as sure and certain evidence of this fact, He has provided a place of eternal punishment which is described in Revelation 21:8 - Revelation 21:8 - “But the cowards, and unbelievers, and the immoral and sexually-perverted, and murderers, and whoremongers and fornicators, and those involved in witchcraft, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” If your belief that “he is a loving God” implies that God overlooks all sin without any exception and pardons everyone without any exception, then that “god” is not the righteous holy LORD God of the Scriptures but an idol to be rejected as a product of human imagination. Although GOD loves, the Scriptures teach that God’s love isn’t universal; instead, it is particular, focused, discriminatory and exclusive. For example: Psalm 5:5-6 - “The foolish shall not stand in Your sight: You hate all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.” and, Romans 9:13 - “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” Salvation by grace has never been universal in extent. God has never been under any obligation to save anyone. The fact that He has chosen to save many but not all of the human race is evidence of His mercy and grace, but nevertheless innumerable people perish in their sins, and are justly condemned in accordance with God’s standards of righteousness and holiness. Michael T. |
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7 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | Dragonflyprincess | 197903 | ||
The Lord knows who are His b/c He is all knowing not selective. Yes I realize unbelievers and such will be punished; Why? B/c they chose to not believe and God knew they would not believe. I realize God is Just and Righteous, also merciful and full of Grace. How does the bible teach that God's Love is not universal or that it is exclusive? John 3:16 says clearly that God so loved the world, is that exclusive? I am not saying that everyone will go to heaven regardless, what I am saying is that He has stretched out His Love and Mercy to any that will recieve it. 1 Timothy 2:3-6; This is good and pleases God our Saviour who wants all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men- the testimony given in proper time. :now how do you explain that God's grace is limited when it says Christ gave himself as a ransom for all men? or How can you say God's love isn't universal when He wants all to come to a knowledge of the truth? Or when it says GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD?? I also wanted to apologize for my attitude in the last note that I wrote, this is a very emotional topic for me knowing that God's love and mercy is for any who will accept it, It bothers me that other people choose to believe that they are chosen and some have no hope b/c God just decides they will be punished no matter the heart. |
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8 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | skccab | 197908 | ||
Shalom and happy holiday DFP, I wouldn't worry about predestination too much. I've come to realize that for many people the fact that our Father set into motion from day one provision for our redemption just doesn't make them "special" enough - they need more. Go ahead live your life, love your Lord, and we'll meet up with all of our brothers and sisters who partook of the feast prepared in the world to come!! Cheri |
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