Subject: word for wine in the original text? |
Bible Note: Is. 16:10 uses the word to refer to the juice in the press. These are just a few examples where the context clearly indicates that the word can refer to something other than alcohol. Greetings John! It amazes me that the Forum is still debating whether or not some words translated as 'wine' could be unfermented! All we have to do is look at the verses as see that sometimes they clear are not refering to alcohol. Here are some examples using the word 'yayin' which you referenced in your previous post. Clearly, it can refer to a fermented beverage, but it also can refer to other things as well. Consider: 1) Jer. 40:10 - "I myself will stay at Mizpah to represent you before the Babylonians who come to us, but you are to harvest the wine, summer fruit and oil, and put them in your storage jars, and live in the towns you have taken over.?" Here the word refers to that which is harvested and then placed in jars. At the time it is harvested, it is still in grape form and is not fermented. 2) Num. 6:4 - "As long as he is a Nazirite, he must not eat anything that comes from the grapevine, not even the seeds or skins." Here the word 'yayin' refers to the actual grape vine. 3) Is. 16:10 - "Joy and gladness are taken away from the orchards; no one sings or shouts in the vineyards; no one treads out wine at the presses, for I have put an end to the shouting." Here, 'yayin' refer to the grapes being pressed at the vineyard. These are just a couple of quick examples to show that some words do have more than one meaning. If you look up the word studies I have posted you will see that there are a number of words translated as 'wine'. Some are always fermented, some are never fermented, and some can be either. My point is not to argue whether we should drink or not, my point is simply to finally get people to realize that the words translated as 'wine' in the Bible DON'T always refer to alcohol. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |