Subject: Raven and John Reformed, Baptism? |
Bible Note: Greetings all, It’s funny how things change after so many posts. The question had to do with if speaking in tongues were needed for Salvation, which we all agree the answer is an emphatic NO. If I may add to this discussion on Baptism: Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized--Baptism is here put for the external signature of the inner faith of the heart, just as "confessing with the mouth" is in Rom 10:10 ; “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation” and there also as here this outward manifestation, once mentioned as the proper fruit of faith, is not repeated in what follows in Romans 10:11 “For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.” JFB We hold that persons are not saved by baptism, for we think, first of all that it seems out of character with the spiritual religion which Christ came to teach, that he should make salvation depend upon mere ceremony” Charles Spurgeon Baptism is important but has nothing to do with the saving of your soul but is a testimony of ones faith. Acts 8:12 “But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women” Notice here that they “believed” first in the name of Jesus Christ. Ephesians 2:5 “Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)” Ephesians 2:8 “For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;” To the woman who washed anointed and kissed Jesus’ feet, Jesus said to her Luke 7:48 “And he said unto her, ‘Thy sins are forgiven’” Luke 7:50 “And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.” Jesus did not command her to go and get baptized to finish her Salvation. Acts 16:31 “They said, Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.” John 6:40 "For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved” KJV Romans 10:13 “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” John 11: 25-26 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?" John 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God John 3:14-15 “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.” John 20:31 “but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name. I noticed just before posting this Tim had posted with some of the same verses that I have here but I left them anyway :-) Love in Christ bgg |