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Subject: God allowing things in our lives |
Bible Note: Doc, Quote / the implications of a God either unwilling or unable to exercise life and death is frightening... no, horrifying. I never said such a thing!! And if you think that I did then you misunderstood me or I wasn't clear. What I said is that I don't believe that God would put something deadly on a person to teach a lesson or get their attention. But I will state that the other poster that made the statements about doctors and medicine would have to be closer to being correct if we see every sickness and disease that comes upon us as being from God to teach us a lesson. What do we say about all the people in the Gospels whom Yeahua "unblessed" by healing them? (It's not that He cannot, I just don't think that He does.) Both of my mothers died of cancer (I'm adopted and know my natural family). The one - I don't know if she was a believer, but the one that raised me was a godly, born-again lady. The surgery that gave her another 5years of life according to you, would have been going against the will of God? The 5 years of remission then was of the adversary and not of God because He gave her the cancer? I don't see where we can have it both ways. Either God gave us brilliant men and women of medicine to fight the curse that came into the world at Adam's fall - or He puts it all on us and the knowledge we've gained in medicine is of the devil and we should just "sit back and get our lesson and hope we get better?" That just doesn't fit into the "abundant life" and "joy more fully" that is a promise to us. I'm very sorry to hear about your father, Doc, I will be praying for you and for him. Let's leave this conversation for now. I love you dearly, and am blessed to have such a wise brother looking out for me sometimes, but here I think we've hit a brick wall, or my feet are stuck in drying cement. much love and prayers for you and yours Cheri |