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NASB | Deuteronomy 32:4 "The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Deuteronomy 32:4 "The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness without iniquity (injustice), Just and upright is He. |
Subject: Is God really just? |
Bible Note: "I fail to see how you say Arminian’s view non believers are punished twice. Once at the cross and once a judgement day...." That's the problem, dear Brother Ed. You don't see that your own words make my point. (One correction: I wrote, "the SINS of the non-believer" are punished twice) If Jesus has "paid the price" for all, then he has suffered the wrath of God (death on the cross) for the sins of all; God has punished the sins of all in Chirst on the cross. If Christ has already suffered for the sins of all, then those non-believers who experience the second death in the lake of fire are suffering for sins already paid for. Therefore the sins of the non-believer are punished twice. Ed you go on to write, "Jesus paid the price it is up to us to decide whether we trust in Him or not." No, it's not up to us but rather, "So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy." (Rom 9:16) It's by God's grace that we choose (believe in) Christ. (Eph 2:8,9) "With your view," you write, "everyone would have to be saved once at the cross and there would be no one to stand before the judgement seat." Half true. Where else but the cross can one be saved, and yes, saved once; how many times does one need to be saved? Judgement seat: We will all stand before Christ's judgement seat (2 Cor 5:10) How would my view imply that we wouldn't? Peace in the Lamb, my brother Lionstrong |