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NASB | Deuteronomy 32:4 "The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Deuteronomy 32:4 "The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness without iniquity (injustice), Just and upright is He. |
Subject: Is God really just? |
Bible Note: Art: These questions, along with the verses you mentioned, have been addressed at length on the forum, so I will not re-hash them here again. Type in the words "Christ" and "elect" in the Quick Search box if you want to examine the biblical arguments against your position. I will address one comment that you have made, however, simply because it makes no sense at all to me: "And you better believe, if God chose me and not another person, thet IS a VERY good reason to boast. Throw your spin out here and tell me why its not. But sorry, it aint going to work." We would only have a good reason to boast if we had EARNED such a position of privilege. Nowhere did I say that I deserved to be saved more than anyone else. Let's put it another way that clearly demonstrates how your view, if true, gives you reason to boast: Why did you receive Christ when so many others who are equally or more evangelized did not? Was it because you are more humble? Or wiser? Or more intelligent? Or more obedient to God? What is it in you, all other things being equal (as you claim) that motivated YOU to become a Christian when someone else did not? In other words, what are you boasting in? Why did God save me? Instead of spin, let's look at Scripture. "He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, ACCORDING TO THE KIND INTENTION OF HIS WILL" --Ephesians 1:4 "also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things AFTER THE COUNSEL OF HIS WILL" --Ephesians 1:11 "So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy." --Romans 9:16 "He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit" --Titus 3:5 Yeah, a lot there for me to boast about myself... --Joe! P.S. I really couldn't care less if it "works for you" or not. My purpose is to glorify God as he has revealed himself in Scripture, and my Bible includes Romans 9 and John 6:37 ff. and Ephesians 1 and Titus 1:1 and 1 Peter 1:3-5 and Matthew 13. If you choose to impose your view that God MUST show equal mercy to all (which is ridiculous to anyone who looks around the world today and sees that all do not receive God's mercy equally even in this life), then that is your business. As you have already said, you are too "closed-minded" (read: unteachable) to even honestly weigh the arguments against your view. |