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NASB | 1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Corinthians 11:5 And every woman who prays or prophesies when she has her head uncovered disgraces her head; for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved [in disgrace]. |
Subject: Women and hair |
Bible Note: Hello Joe, Thank you for your thought provoking response. I understand perfectly where your concerns are coming from. That is one problem with ‘back and forth” dialog, rather than face to face. In moments, rather than days, or longer, one can clarify what is meant in any comment. I appreciate your respect, Joe, and your spiritual maturity demonstrated in your postings. That said, let’s look at what you wrote and how it fits in our discussion. You wrote, “First of all, I would like a little more clarification. Are you suggesting that Paul either lies or is mistaken in 1 Corinthians 14:34 when he says: "for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says." Paul is largely talking about women being in subjection to their husbands in corporate worship (verse 11:3). We read the following in the Torah: "Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you." --Genesis 3:16 Joe, Let me make myself clear – I do not take what Scripture says lightly. Everything is for our “instruction”, if you will. But not everything is pertinent for our lives. Romans 14 helps us to understand the differences in “cultures” from place to place. What you are permitted to do in one place, would be “out-of-place” someplace else. Paul, as a “world traveler” would notice the differences in the ways things are done, said, thought. He would, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, act and speak accordingly. Now, I must say, your tying Gen 3:16 to this passage in Cor. doesn’t exactly fit. I have many study Bibles. In some of those Bibles, I have also read that “conclusion” about Gen. But it still doesn’t fit. Why doesn’t it fit? Because of what Paul wrote: “just as the Law also says”. And we must realize that Gen. 3:16 ISN’T A LAW. LAWS ARE TO BE OBEYED. How can a woman OBEY, or, for that matter, disobey Gen. 3:16? Again, I promise you, there is NO LAW about this to be found in God’s Word. If you have access to the Talmud, you will find exactly to what Paul was referring. But the Talmud is man-made laws, and the Torah is God-made. Was Paul saying they were to obey man rather than God? Why would Paul do exactly the opposite of what so many other letters warn against? Didn’t he mean what he said about their not being male or female from God’s prospective? Thank you, Joe, for the “tip” on the website. My computer time is often hit and miss, but I will check it out. :) Respectfully, Taleb |